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"Kansas and Missouri hold hundreds of sex predators in civil confinement years after their original prison sentences have been served.
On Monday, a U.S. Supreme Court ruling involving a Lakin, Kan., grade school counselor affirmed that the Justice Department can do the same with some of its inmates"
I have no problem with giving child molesters 30 year sentences, I do have a problem with doling out sentence and later saying, guess what, we added more years to it. WTF? Is this even Constitutional?. Only 2 justices dissented, Thomas and Scalia. Not a big fan of those two, but they made the right decision.
U.S. can indefinitely hold sex offenders, Supreme Court rules - KansasCity.com (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/05/17/1952814/us-can-indefinitely-hold-sex-offenders.html#ixzz0oG0Q4Yjr - broken link)
"Kansas and Missouri hold hundreds of sex predators in civil confinement years after their original prison sentences have been served.
On Monday, a U.S. Supreme Court ruling involving a Lakin, Kan., grade school counselor affirmed that the Justice Department can do the same with some of its inmates"
I have no problem with giving child molesters 30 year sentences, I do have a problem with doling out sentence and later saying, guess what, we added more years to it. WTF? Is this even Constitutional?. Only 2 justices dissented, Thomas and Scalia. Not a big fan of those two, but they made the right decision.
U.S. can indefinitely hold sex offenders, Supreme Court rules - KansasCity.com (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/05/17/1952814/us-can-indefinitely-hold-sex-offenders.html#ixzz0oG0Q4Yjr - broken link)
Unfortunately this is a logical extention of the Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act. Once that level of abuse of power takes place eventually it'll hit home.
I've agreed with Scalia and Thomas before, on Kelo v. New London and on Madsen v. Women's Health Center (the case that established the constitutionality of "free speech zones", in which Scalia, Thomas, and Kennedy dissented - the majority was composed of Rehnquist, O'Connor, Souter, Blackmun, and Ginsburg. Unfortunately the court's liberals saw the case as being an abortion case not a first amendment case which is probably why they ruled as they did.) I agreed with Thomas on Gonzales v. Raich (in which he dissented along with Rehnquist and O'Connor). So it does happen.
Interesting. I had heard of many people voluntarily entering civil confinement after being released from jail and would imagine it's illegal to force them after they've "done their time."
My ideals tell me that's waaaay messed up, but on the other hand I'd rather not have pedophiles on the street.
Interesting. I had heard of many people voluntarily entering civil confinement after being released from jail and would imagine it's illegal to force them after they've "done their time."
My ideals tell me that's waaaay messed up, but on the other hand I'd rather not have pedophiles on the street.
Why not give pedophiles a mandatory 50 year sentence with no parole? Just make the sentences harsher. If they can do it to the perverts who is next? Terrorists? Insurgents? Drug dealers? Drug users?
Why not give pedophiles a mandatory 50 year sentence with no parole? Just make the sentences harsher. If they can do it to the perverts who is next? Terrorists? Insurgents? Drug dealers? Drug users?
"Kansas and Missouri hold hundreds of sex predators in civil confinement years after their original prison sentences have been served.
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Is this even Constitutional?.
I would think that an 8 to 2 decision makes it rather Constitutional, and certainly in line with O'Connor v. Donaldson, 422 U.S. 563 (1975).
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Only 2 justices dissented, Thomas and Scalia. Not a big fan of those two, but they made the right decision.
Did you read their reasoning? I found it exceedingly suspect, considering their objections could theoretically apply to any Federal criminal statute outside of treason.
As much as I dislike the idea of holding people beyond their sentence, I understand it in this case.
Its a fact, no doubt about it, that some child molesters will do the same thing again if given the chance. I don't think that they should be kept in prison, but some kind of extremely low minimum security facility, where they are tracked, and kept far, far away from children yes.
Its a mental disorder, and there is no cure for it. We don't let mentally ill people out of mental facilities, when they are a threat to the general population. This falls under the same situation, in my opinion.
I think its cruel and unusual to keep them locked up in prison though. Child molesters face death, rape, and hate in prisons on a daily basis. Keeping them there forever, isn't keeping with our standards of justice in our country.
My only fear, is that something like this could be extended to other, not so clearly defined threats to the public. We need strong legislation in place to keep that from happening.
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