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Old 05-18-2010, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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The payment reduction formula for Medicare enacted by Congress was done LONG before Obama was EVER in the picture. Docs started opting out of Medicare big time as far back as 2001.

Ooopsie.
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The payment reduction formula for Medicare enacted by Congress was done LONG before Obama was EVER in the picture. Docs started opting out of Medicare big time as far back as 2001.

-AMA President James Rohack on Monday said costs will continue to rise if Congress continues to rely on short-term fixes to the formula.

Rohack on Monday said, "It's time for Congress to put aside the short-term actions that have more than quadrupled the price of a solution for American taxpayers and fix the problem once and for all for seniors, military families and their physicians" - CongressDaily
And Congress has been extending it..up until now which is under Obama's administration.
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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And the Dem's tried to fix it in late '09, and the Repub's blocked it, and are still blocking it. So, the REPUBLICANS who put it in, and who have been blocking the further funding of payments and fix of the formula, are who you need to take it up with. Not the Obama administration.
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:58 PM
 
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Rightwing "Conservatives":

Please don't take our government payments away! .....Boo hoo! Doctors are sooo abused! Please Uncle Sam spend MORE money not less!..

{ Did I mention that right wing "conservatives" are very concerned about deficits???}
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Old 05-18-2010, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Rightwing "Conservatives":

Please don't take our government payments away! .....Boo hoo! Doctors are sooo abused! Please Uncle Sam spend MORE money not less!..
The doctors aren't complaining..the medicare patients who cannot find doctors are.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:02 AM
 
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The problem, in my humble and very important opinion, is not Medicare, Medicaid it's the doctors. They want to become millionaires before they're 50 and all the perks (too large of a house, Jag, Benz, Harvard Med for the kids), pay their nursing staff their $60k salary, etc, etc, etc. Why would they uphold their oath when it's more beneficial not to.

Yet, there's Medicare fraud . . .

Sure. We are ripping everyone off. Medicare fraud is endemic in democratic strongholds and linked to political donors. See Miami Dade County, in which the equivilent of every citizen of the county is billed daily for HIV treatment drugs. Everyone knows about it, yet the dems won't act,as the fraudsters keep them in power. It is a national joke.

We lose money on every medicare patient we see already. With the cuts, we will also be opting out of medicare.

How much work do you do for free?
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:11 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Forced charity, is not charity. It is tyranny.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:04 AM
 
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The "20% pay cuts" was due to legislation kicked around by congress since '97. I had a link but lost it. Congress keeps extending it but doesn't make it permanent (for some reason). They just recently, beginning of April, extended it again. In short, nothing whatsoever to do with the health care law.

Your "Just government manipulation of fee schedules" is laughable . Hate to barge in on your conspiracy but that's EXACTLY what insurance companies do. It's called "usual and customary" amount. Short version, dictating an amount (fee)(set by them for the most part) that hospitals/doctors/dentists should be charging for any given procedure based on a given area. Gubment, needless to say, usual and customary amount is less.
No sarge,...what's laughable is your lack of knowledge about the history of our federal government's involvement in healthcare starting back in the 1960s with Medicare, Medicade, and then the HMO legislation. You ignore the fact that hospitals routinely overcharge patients with private insurance to offset the underpayments by the federal government.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:57 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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No sarge,...what's laughable is your lack of knowledge about the history of our federal government's involvement in healthcare starting back in the 1960s with Medicare, Medicade, and then the HMO legislation. You ignore the fact that hospitals routinely overcharge patients with private insurance to offset the underpayments by the federal government.

They will never understand why cost have risen so fast. They have their "I want mine" blinders on.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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They will never understand why cost have risen so fast. They have their "I want mine" blinders on.

Don't blame them, they don't know any better. They are after all just Republicans. They want their cut as well, and that's why the cuts are still in place.
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