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I don't see how Iraq is, either. But we've wasted a trillion dollars and thousands of lives to...
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to do what, again? I don't recall Bush ever really explaining what the national interest was that caused him to invade.
I agree Iraq isn't a threat never was. He supposedly invaded because of WMD'S that have never been found. I think he had other reasons but that was the official one. The point is Obama said he would pull all troops out of Iraq in his first year he didn't.
Bush inherited a prosperous America that was at peace. He left office with two unresolved, horribly mismanaged middle east wars and the worst economic crisis in generations.
Obama entered office inheriting two horribly mismanaged middle east quagmires and the worst economy since the 1930's.
Let's see how things look when he leaves office and then make a comparison.
Of course, I can understand the eagerness of Bush-backers to sweep his record under the rug.
Yeah you are right. But it gets real old everyone blaming Bush for everything including Obama himself. He needs to take some responsibility here. I am also not a Bush backer I was rooting for him in 2000 because I hated Gore so badly but in 2004 I voted 3rd party seeing how we had such a horrible choice of candidates.
I agree Iraq isn't a threat never was. He supposedly invaded because of WMD'S that have never been found. I think he had other reasons but that was the official one. The point is Obama said he would pull all troops out of Iraq in his first year he didn't.
I'd say the point is that Obama has been able to adjust his actions based on events as they unfold. And he's been forthcoming with why he's doing that.
Bush didn't call off the invasion even when it was clear there was no threat. He invaded anyway. And he'll never be honest with the country about his reasons for doing so.
BS, Bush inherited a country headed into a recession.
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that was at peace.
Maybe you suffer from altzhimers and you forget all about
WTC 1 - under Clinton
Oklahoma City Bombings
Waco
The attack on USS Cole
bombings of Kosovo.
The Aspirin factory
And of course you are ignoring that Clinton bombed the HELL out of Iraq
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He left office with two unresolved, horribly mismanaged middle east wars and the worst economic crisis in generations
So you would support Bush becoming dictator?
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Obama entered office inheriting two horribly mismanaged middle east quagmires and the worst economy since the 1930's.
Let's see how things look when he leaves office and then make a comparison.
Of course, I can understand the eagerness of Bush-backers to sweep his record under the rug.
And I understand your eagerness to claim alzheimers as a reason you ignore Clintons record and the fact that many of the problems existed WELL BEFORE Bush took office..
And of course you are ignoring that Clinton bombed the HELL out of Iraq.
Yes he did and it was found out after Baghdad fell that this bombing completely demoralized the Iraqis from attempting building WMD. The attack complete destroy a graphite factory which eliminated the building of missiles.
Operation Desert Fox - which conservatives called Wag the Dog - actually did good.
Read Thomas Ricks book Fiasco - it there between pages 20-30 if I remember correctly.
He broke Obama's promise to close the detention center at Guantanamo in the first year.
What an incredible crock! The conservative, tea bagger, creationists have been fighting that with horror stories of invading terrorist hordes ever since. It does take some bipartisan cooperation after all.
Absolutely amazing the stuff people suck up! Makes you wonder how long it took to get over their parents lying to them about Santa Claus and the tooth fairy. Looks to me like they never got over it.
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