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They would much prefer people rely on government for their education,
There was a time when Democrats and Repulicans were advocates of public education, mainly because not many peopler were getting one. As early 1779 little known political philosophers like Thomas Jefferson, concerned about the education of the state of Virginia proposed a three tiered system of PUBLIC education. Weird wouldn't you say?
What liberals believe is that when folks can't:
Afford medical care
Cannot care for themselves in their retirement.
Abuse their children
Monitor the safety of their food.
Then liberals do believe that the government, in the name of society as a hold, has a responsibility to the welfare of its citizens. On this count we plead guilty.
And they're doing a bang up job at it! Keep up the good work!
Perhaps by the end of Obama's term, we'll have 30% unemployment.
What do you consider Right Wing/Conservatives that accept these government programs, or are you in some alternate reality state and truely believe that they DO NOT?
H R 3962 RECORDED VOTE 7-Nov-2009 11:16 PM
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: Affordable Health Care for America Act
If you can answer this question honestly, then we can debate.
1. All of the goverment programs that encompose the services that you listed above (education, health care), Where was personal responsibility when the rightwing conservatives accepted them right along with the liberals?
2. When the Right wing/Conservatives were in the majority and or the President, why didn't they just get rid of them instead of constantly funding them?
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Lets try this again.
What do you consider Right Wing/Conservatives that accept these government programs, or are you in some alternate reality state and truely believe that they DO NOT?
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Now where is the answer to question number one. Both you and the OP conveniently jumped over that one.
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so, your saying unemployment insurance, FHA, medicaid/medicare, Financial Aid ect. All of these goverment programs are unconstitutional and NOT ONE SELF RESPECTING RIGHT WING/CONSERVATIVE WILL DARE SPEND OTHER PEOPLES MONEY?
No matter how you try to change the subject of your own thread, the questions are still out there. The questions you REFUSE to answer directly. So here, I will keep posting them until you answer the question.
I just showed you where the Republican vote on health care was 176 to 1 against, I am not sure what else you want. Perhaps what you are really trying to do is divert the discussion away from the liberal philosophy.
If you cannot fabricate a reasonable debate, feel free to engage in name calling and personal attacks.
When posters make as many off the wall assumptions as the OP did, there is noting to debate. Know why, the OP is not interested in debating or the facts, hence it would be a waste of time and anyone with more than two brain cells can figure out that making such ludicrous blanket statements is nothing more than some one trolling. Thanks for playing.
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Part of the problem is once in place they are hard if not impossible to get rid of. Let's suppose for a minute it could be proven that there is a better way than SS, how do you get rid of it? You can't because it's become entrenched.
Social Security is not what YOU probably think it is. It's an Insurance program NOT an investment program.
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The social programs of the left are unconstitutional and unethical. The fact that they are utter and complete failures proves that the founders were right in their assertation that all men are created created equal.
Why are liberals so fast to spend other peoples money?
Why are the NeoConfused so fast to spend other peoples' money building other countries?
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I just showed you where the Republican vote on health care was 176 to 1 against, I am not sure what else you want. Perhaps what you are really trying to do is divert the discussion away from the liberal philosophy.
Healthcare is a very small part of what you started this thread whining about.
I just showed you where the Republican vote on health care was 176 to 1 against, I am not sure what else you want. Perhaps what you are really trying to do is divert the discussion away from the liberal philosophy.
They wouldnt have dared vote otherwise, not sure if you've been paying attention to the sorry partisan antics in Congress of late.
............................. and here's to you, Mrs Robinson, heaven holds a place for those who pray.
It is unfortunate,but true. Many of the characteristics of liberals are incidental, but reflect the true essence of that "faith" which is the supremecy of the federal government at the expense of the individual. As a result, most liberals will, and have, abrogated thier personal responsibility and initiative to the federal government. Thus the citizens of New Orleans killing one another and waiting in the flood water for help, while citizens of Iowa bailed themselves out one year later with a similar disaster. One group has faith in the feds (and thus none in themselves), while another feels as though the individual can achieve without the help or interference of the feds.
By its nature, the "rugged individualism" of America could not have occurred in liberal PC atmosphere. Had liberalism been pervasive at the inception of the nation, we would still be waiting on the east coast for the feds to open up the west for exploration and settling. Certainly not the mindset one needs for civilization to advance.
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