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With thousands of oil wells pumping enough oil to meet our global needs of
85.22 million barrels per day i get to wondering about the viability of all this oil sometimes miles below the Earths surface all being the result of decaying ancient forests, any one else find this idea somewhat lacking in credibility?
As i was browsing the issue yesterday i came upon something called the Abiotic oil theory which says oil is a byproduct of some reaction deep within the Earths crust and is continually being created.Seems to make more sense to me than the old trees theory.. The Abiotic Oil Formation Theory
With thousands of oil wells pumping enough oil to meet our global needs of
85.22 million barrels per day i get to wondering about the viability of all this oil sometimes miles below the Earths surface all being the result of decaying ancient forests, any one else find this idea somewhat lacking in credibility?
As i was browsing the issue yesterday i came upon something called the Abiotic oil theory which says oil is a byproduct of some reaction deep within the Earths crust and is continually being created.Seems to make more sense to me than the old trees theory.. The Abiotic Oil Formation Theory
Cool article. Obviously, one would need additional studies to adress the credibility of the supposition, but it is very interesting.
With thousands of oil wells pumping enough oil to meet our global needs of
85.22 million barrels per day i get to wondering about the viability of all this oil sometimes miles below the Earths surface all being the result of decaying ancient forests, any one else find this idea somewhat lacking in credibility?
As i was browsing the issue yesterday i came upon something called the Abiotic oil theory which says oil is a byproduct of some reaction deep within the Earths crust and is continually being created.Seems to make more sense to me than the old trees theory.. The Abiotic Oil Formation Theory
Oil is produced only in areas that used to be ocean bed. Dead plankton and other organic debris sinks to the bottom and become sediment, which builds up in layers. Over millions of years, these layers get many thousands of feet thick, and the pressure of the overlying layers creates a rock-lock substance called kerogen (oil shale). If the kerogen is subjected to enough heat and pressure, it undergoes a transformation to either gas or petroleum, depending upon the amount of geothermal heat present. The volume of petroleum produced is greater than the kerogen it came from so the system becomes pressurized.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with forests (that would be coal), and the process is ongoing. Some theories hold that a great "death" of the oceans millions of years ago led to the rapid deposition of a layer, but, I don't believe that for a single shot kill-off wouldn't deposit that much debris. Petroleum is a very interesting subject, and I invite people to research it. Just the incredible variations in the nature of crudes from all over the world is fascinating. Some crude oil can be burned in diesel engines with only filtration, it is so light. Others have to be heated just to pump them.The best overall is called light sweet crude. Light means that it is mostly made up of shorter hydrocarbon chains that are used to make gasoline and diesel, while sweet (actually tastes sweet) refers to low sulfur.
Dr. Gold has a distressing propensity for being right. I have always suspected the dead vegetation theory because dead swamps tends to become coal and coal seam gas. Until reading the Abiotic genesis of Petroleum (along with the “Deep Hot Biosphere” by Dr. Gold) I did not really have any good idea where all the stuff was coming from. A major business and economic problem with the abiotic theory is simply that the total amount of oil may be effectively unlimited but the producible rate may be fixed below our current consumption.
Oil is priced way above the cost of the current production in order to supposedly cover exploration cost of new sources but that is not true. Oil is priced to maximize profits across the entire industry by limiting production to a fixed amount that will be bought at a profit maximizing price. The people running the industry are not dumb and were paying attention during their marketing classes. They are just ignoring the nonsense about a free market in energy.
This was debunked a long time ago. Mostly still touted by people who don't know anything about organic chemistry who think magic can happen.
"However, no oil company has ever successfully found a well using the theory and it is generally considered pseudoscience on the order of global warming denial. It originated in the Soviet Union, its major scientific supporters worked in Russia, and it has never gained a following anywhere outside the Soviet Union. Having largely passed with the USSR, it occasionally makes a comeback among less intellectual conservative elements, where it is used as an excuse to continue ignoring the energy crisis of the future."
it occasionally makes a comeback among less intellectual conservative elements, where it is used as an excuse to continue ignoring the energy crisis of the future." Abiotic oil - RationalWiki
At least half the price of oil around here is government taxes..
Thanks for the less intellectual conservative element label.
I'm all about solving the coming energy crises and i'm a social democrat by the way .
And although its been pointed out that the oil doesnt come from dieing vegetable matter but dying plankton i'm not able to find a verifiable website that shows where thousands of feet of degenerating plankton are accumulating on the ocean floor to support future oil wells.As for this Abiotic theory's credibility i posted it as an interesting read not to start an evolution vs creationism type debate.
Somehow the dumb blonde "I can't be overdrawn, I still have checks left..." comes to mind. If we are using high pressure steam to force oil from reluctant wells; if we are endangering coastline by drilling wells offshore; if we are contemplating low quality sources of oil like shale.... does this sound like a resource that is renewable? Does the infrastructure of offshore drilling look to you like a cover for the artificial maintenance of high prices for what is actually a very plentiful resource? ... .. chew on that for awhile.
With thousands of oil wells pumping enough oil to meet our global needs of
85.22 million barrels per day i get to wondering about the viability of all this oil sometimes miles below the Earths surface all being the result of decaying ancient forests, any one else find this idea somewhat lacking in credibility?
As i was browsing the issue yesterday i came upon something called the Abiotic oil theory which says oil is a byproduct of some reaction deep within the Earths crust and is continually being created.Seems to make more sense to me than the old trees theory.. The Abiotic Oil Formation Theory
Nope, try again. If that was the case we would have been able to "grow" oil in a lab a long time ago. What's in the ground is all we are gonna get for a few hundred million years or so.
The extensive search for existing reservoirs looks to me like trying to find places where a rate limited natural production may have been stored. There is no reason to believe we can consume oil as a fuel for an unlimited length of time. We may have to limit oil to being a chemical feedstock and produce our transportation energy some other way.
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