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Nancy said "We have to pass this bill to find out what is in it. Nobody read it but they did vote for it in spite of the majority of people being against it. It is now time to start finding out what is in it and what is not in it. It seems that letting those people like Andy Stern write the bill, Obamacare, caused it to be written and worded somewhat amateurishly and that is becoming scary to many people.
I guess they were in a hurry so they could have the same historic date as Hitler.
President Hitler signed a shockingly similar bill with similar tactics used to get it signed….threats, harassment, false promises, intimidation, invented crises. Gee….did Obama take lessons from Hitler? He certainly proudly taught ACORN workers from Saul Alinsky’s book, Rules for Radicals, so why not go back to the original power *****, crowd manipulator and evil visionary? On that fateful day, March 23rd Hitler signed into law the National Law for Removing the Distress of the People bill. It was also called Hitler’s Enabling Act. I talked with Steve Eichler of www.faxdc.com this week on air about these two dates and the horrifying similarities of the two events in history. Steve and I probed whether we were indeed reliving history. We both studied the events of 1933 and 2010 and said a big fat yes!
It will be a GREAT thing to get this bill totally canceled. There is so many things that could be done to be more benificial and constitutional. The states have the power to do the things needed for their people. The bill now is just for power and control of the people and the states.
I guess they were in a hurry so they could have the same historic date as Hitler.
President Hitler signed a shockingly similar bill with similar tactics used to get it signed….threats, harassment, false promises, intimidation, invented crises.
30 million Americans without health insurance isn't an "invented crisis," it's an "embarrassing disaster."
Each state can take care of their people. And when the dust settles on this bill--------millions will still not be covered!
Agreed. This bill was not good enough. It should have included a public option so everyone would be included, but the Democrats chose the centrist path.
But it's a start and it's better than what we had before. Hopefully the next bill will be single payer so everyone can be covered.
Agreed. This bill was not good enough. It should have included a public option so everyone would be included, but the Democrats chose the centrist path.
But it's a start and it's better than what we had before. Hopefully the next bill will be single payer so everyone can be covered.
Do you know anybody who has read all of this bill? I don't either.
Nancy said "We have to pass this bill to find out what is in it. Nobody read it but they did vote for it in spite of the majority of people being against it. It is now time to start finding out what is in it and what is not in it. It seems that letting those people like Andy Stern write the bill, Obamacare, caused it to be written and worded somewhat amateurishly and that is becoming scary to many people.
There are a lot of people who have not read the new Law. None of them, however, in Congress. Some Congressmen may lie to you about having not read it, but you can be sure, all of them knew exactly what was in the Legislation. Anyone who has not read it, just hasn't taken the time to do so. So, Nancy Pelosi is quite right, those people not taking the time, had to wait to know what is in the new Law.
Starting in 2011—next year—the W-2 tax form sent by your employer will be increased to show the value of whatever health insurance you are provided.
It doesn't matter if you're retired; your gross income WILL go up by the amount of insurance your employer paid for. So you’ll be required to pay taxes on a larger sum of money that you actually received; take the tax form you just finished and see what $15,000.00 or $20,000.00 additional gross income does to your tax debt. That's what you'll pay next year. For many it puts you into a much higher bracket. This is how the government is going to buy insurance for fifteen (15) percent that don't have insurance and it's only part of the tax increases, but it's not really a "tax increase" as such, it a redefinition of your taxable income.
:Title IX Revenue Provisions—Subtitle A: Revenue Offset
"(Sec. 9002) Requires employers to include in the W-2 form of each employee the aggregate cost of applicable employer-sponsored group health coverage that is excludable from the employee's gross income (excluding the value of contributions to flexible spending arrangements)."
Each state can take care of their people. And when the dust settles on this bill--------millions will still not be covered!
Isn't that something for the state governments to take care of?
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