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The military follows the orders that they are given--or they wind up court-martialed and in the news, with people calling them traitors (Ehren Watada ring a bell?)
actually if you read the oath the military takes you would understand what it actually means to the military.
It's not my scenario. I was only pointing out the flaws of someone else's scenario. I seriously doubt many, if any US military would go along but the theoretical situation I responded to made the assumption that joint US/UN forces would be confiscating our weapons. I can only work within the given parameters after all.
Remember, this is only a theoretical discussion. Be sure to note the context of any comments made.
Agreed. This entire line is flawed because US soldiers will not attack their own just because politicians say to. Many if not most soldiers as I have said are private gun owners. I think our elected liars understand this well enough not to push it.
I'm envisioning a reasonable disarming process where owners would be compensated for their firearms and ammo with tax credits at fair market value.
so when will the cops and military be disarmed? you will never be able to disarm the public before you disarm the cops both civilian and federal, remove all foreign goverments and soldiers and disarming the military in its entirety.
Agreed. This entire line is flawed because US soldiers will not attack their own just because politicians say to. Many if not most soldiers as I have said are private gun owners. I think our elected liars understand this well enough not to push it.
Yep. We're on the same page here.
As to our fearless leaders' level of understanding, I think you give them far more credit than I do.
You and I agree on a lot of things, TK (especially when it comes to to the South and all! LOL), but we part company on this one. What makes you think that the tank drivers will attack their own when it comes to an issue like this?
Hell, you were in the military, would you participate in something like the conficastion of firearms from the public domain? C'mon, now...
You and I agree on a lot of things, TK (especially when it comes to to the South and all! LOL), but we part company on this one. What makes you think that the tank drivers will attack their own when it comes to an issue like this?
Hell, you were in the military, would you participate in something like the conficastion of firearms from the public domain? C'mon, now...
I would follow the orders I was given, whether I agreed with them or not. I'd gripe about it, and wonder why we didn't just kill them instead of putting our lives at risk.
but they will protect me from thugs and people who think they can win fights with their hands and feet.
also, tell the afghan rebels of the early 80's that rifles did not stop the soviet invasion which had tanks, choppers and jets in it.
Ah, but if you're reliant on them, you're worse off than people who can ACTUALLY fight. If you're in melee range, hands and feet are quicker than guns, since you still have to move to get it. And that's a wasted movement.
I would follow the orders I was given, whether I agreed with them or not. I'd gripe about it, and wonder why we didn't just kill them instead of putting our lives at risk.
But would they be lawful orders????
I followed orders also, even the ones I didn't agree with. But would I fire upon US civilians who refused to give up their personal property because some asshat in DC says so? Not a chance. In fact I can't think of a single person that I served with that would have.
Looters? Absolutely. But people refusing to hand over lawfully purchased property? For refusing to forfeit a right our founding fathers guaranteed us? Not a chance.
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