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Old 05-30-2010, 07:06 AM
 
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Yeah! I bet it's a lot!
I bet it is too!!
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh, are you explaining child labor law for us, and the intrusion it makes on this family? *settles in expectantly*
You're not making sense, go figure. Why would I need to explain Child Labor laws?
If the simple article is too hard to figure out maybe you should leave the discussion to the adults.
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:19 AM
 
Location: US
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I don't understand what all the fury is about. They just help out on the Friday nights and Saturday, don't operate equipment, according to the article. They go to a public school during the week, never skip school to work, they aren't paid and the 84 year old grandfather, the founder of the business, is there too when they're there. Are they allowed to stand and watch?
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:35 AM
 
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Must be a family values thing for the right wing that 8 year old children should have a job.
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:42 AM
 
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Must be a family values thing for the right wing that 8 year old children should have a job.
Must be a left wing welfare thing that a child should grow up so stupid they need the government in order to survive.
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:03 AM
 
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You're not making sense, go figure. Why would I need to explain Child Labor laws?
If the simple article is too hard to figure out maybe you should leave the discussion to the adults.
OK, then I'll try to put the "discussion" back on track, since your last posts indicate you're not especially interested in pursuing it.

I think I'm mostly annoyed by your thread title, "The government is looking out for family values." The government does not look out for family values. The state labor depts do have to make sure that children arent exploited, however.

CT prohibits kids under 16 working in restaurants. Maybe the question is, are these kids actually working, as if they were employees, to assist the business, or are they casually just learning the family business, sometimes by doing?

The attorney ABC questioned about it -- speaking hypothetically -- pointed out that "a child doing anything that 'adds value to a business' might be considered [to be working]."

"There has to be a balance for parents who are really trying to provide an education and real world experience versus parents who are taking advantage of free labor....the way the law is set up is to prevent the unscrupulous parents from taking advantage of their kids."

Either way, though, I don't see how the state labor law, or the labor dept investigating an allegation, violates the family's civil rights. That's kind of interesting. The father's comment about culture and tradition is probably a classic red flag to labor law investigators.
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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Must be a left wing welfare thing that a child should grow up so stupid they need the government in order to survive.
Two thumbs up, mag32gie!! Left wingers just don't seem to get it that a family doing things together--whether that is a game of horseshoes in the back yard, going on a picnic together, attending church together or working together at the family pizza business--builds stronger family ties and character in the children. Such children are much more likely to grow up to be productive members of society than children who are coddled and pampered and never given any responsibility when they are in their formative years.

For the record, for those who didn't read the article, none of the children are paid workers and they are at the family business only on Friday evenings and weekend. There appears to be no forced labor or abuse.
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:15 AM
 
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Two thumbs up, mag32gie!! Left wingers just don't seem to get it that a family doing things together--whether that is a game of horseshoes in the back yard, going on a picnic together, attending church together or working together at the family pizza business--builds stronger family ties and character in the children. Such children are much more likely to grow up to be productive members of society than children who are coddled and pampered and never given any responsibility when they are in their formative years.

For the record, for those who didn't read the article, none of the children are paid workers and they are at the family business only on Friday evenings and weekend. There appears to be no forced labor or abuse.
That's beside the point.
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:54 AM
 
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That's beside the point.
What? That families engaging in family activities together builds strong family ties and character in the children? That the children are not paid for what they do? That there is no abuse or forced labor?

What is your point?
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:02 AM
 
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Two thumbs up, mag32gie!! Left wingers just don't seem to get it that a family doing things together--whether that is a game of horseshoes in the back yard, going on a picnic together, attending church together or working together at the family pizza business--builds stronger family ties and character in the children. Such children are much more likely to grow up to be productive members of society than children who are coddled and pampered and never given any responsibility when they are in their formative years.

For the record, for those who didn't read the article, none of the children are paid workers and they are at the family business only on Friday evenings and weekend. There appears to be no forced labor or abuse.
Great Post! Great Points! Sometimes, I do believe Left Wingers are out to destroy family ties.

They are SUPPOSEDLY so concerned about kids welfare...Funny, I don't see any of them coming to the foreground to protest the Hollywood Child Porn and Profanity bunch. The Gov seems to need to check up on these kids working together with their family in a respectable business but Nobody seems to have a problem with the 11 year old child, who starred in the movie "Kick Ass," and learned to mutilate and viciously kill people, swear like a sailor, including this 11 year old child star using the worst profanity; i.e., "cun*" and "fu*k" in the movie. Yeah, go HOLLYWOOD! Do what you will with children! We'll create loopholes for ya! But, hhmmmmmm....Let's go harass the middleclass Family working together to make ends meet, not relying on welfare, not sticking the kids in latchkey, not leaving them home alone, but keeping them together as a strong family unit. That's too scary. Give me a break...
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