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Old 05-31-2010, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Interesting how some people are just hell-bent on denying gays any sort of recognition or equality. It's so clear that they're anti-gay, and they'll come up with anything to justify their prejudice.

That is just a crock of crap. This is the problem with debate in this country, if you issue a different perspective, you are automatically labeled a bigot and prejudiced.

People let their emotions override their logic.
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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That is just a crock of crap. This is the problem with debate in this country, if you issue a different perspective, you are automatically labeled a bigot and prejudiced.

People let their emotions override their logic.
It's logical to assume that if you don't feel gays deserve equal rights in all aspects of life then you're most likely anti-gay.
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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I have been wondering just how VAST that majority of Americans is. Do you have some figures of some kind?

Poll: 78% Of The American People Want Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell Repealed Now | The New Civil Rights Movement

78% is vast in my humble opinion.
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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I have been wondering just how VAST that majority of Americans is. Do you have some figures of some kind?
It could very well be the vast majority in the left coast, and East coast.
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Yea, its time to turn the page. Leave the oldtimers and bigots behind. Join the rest of the civilized world.
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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It's logical to assume that if you don't feel gays deserve equal rights in all aspects of life then you're most likely anti-gay.
That's not logic, but emotions. As you can see, you have used the word "feel" already, a clear example of an emotional condition. You are also assuming the other poster is anti-homosexual.
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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That's not logic, but emotions. As you can see, you have used the word "feel" already, a clear example of an emotional condition. You are also assuming the other poster is anti-homosexual.
No equal right for gays = anti-gay/homosexual. See, no emotions.
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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It's logical to assume that if you don't feel gays deserve equal rights in all aspects of life then you're most likely anti-gay.
Seriously, have you read my posts? Because obviously you havent. I have offered reasons why this isnt as easy as just going in and repealing dadt. All of this is becoming redundant, and obviously some of you are just looking for a reason to be offended and turn this into an anti-gay issue.

Show me where I said that gays dont deserve equal rights. If dadt is repealed...as is..without addressing the issue of the military's recognition of gay marriage, then they will NOT have the same rights when it come to gay couples and families. Are you anti-family? Well one can only "assume" that you are since you dont want that issue addressed beforehand. (see how stupid that sounds...grow up.)
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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No equal right for gays = anti-gay/homosexual. See, no emotions.
What rights? Nobody is stopping you from being homosexual, nor heterosexual, nor bisexual. Did you know that a bisexual person, or a married and "swinger" one, too? How come a bisexual person, or a swinger does not have the right to stay in the military? can also be discharged form the militaryIn fact, you have the right not to join any group, club, or organization you don't want to join. For example, you don't have to be a Christian and attend Catholic masses if you don't want to. All you want to do is to force others to accept what you are, but as long as you don't harm others you still have that right
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Seriously, have you read my posts? Because obviously you havent. I have offered reasons why this isnt as easy as just going in and repealing dadt. All of this is becoming redundant, and obviously some of you are just looking for a reason to be offended and turn this into an anti-gay issue.

Show me where I said that gays dont deserve equal rights. If dadt is repealed...as is..without addressing the issue of the military's recognition of gay marriage, then they will NOT have the same rights when it come to gay couples and families. Are you anti-family? Well one can only "assume" that you are since you dont want that issue addressed beforehand. (see how stupid that sounds...grow up.)
If you believe DADT should not be completely repealed, you're anti-gay. I was responding to one specific post. I have no idea what you're detailed stance is. IMO, there is no other fair stance but complete repeal.
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