Isreal wont talk nukes! (soldier, how much, lobby, bias)

[padcrasher]

Originally Posted by quiet walker

Ha Ha! Here comes the anticipated "ANTI SEMITE!!! ANTI SEMITE!!!" that always comes if anyone questions in the slightest way possible the actions of the US funded and enabled pariah "state" of Israel.

Of Course this murderous, thieving, warmongering "state" is having problems with surrounding countries, which disagree with its deadly policies Why can't these greedy grubbing people live in their already stolen land? It appears that the Jew cannot rest until he possesses that which belongs to somebody else, and will kill and destroy to get it. In the civilized world that is usually met with strong reaction which prompts them to cry "ANTI SEMITE!!! ANTI SEMITE!!!"

The Israelis continue their racist ethnic cleansing in East Jerusalem which their benefactor the United States asked them to stop. The Israelis refused, said "f*ck you!" and demanded "Now give us the money!" to which the US meekly complied.

Again, to the the pro Israel lobby types that always appear in force whenever anyone questions their ways. I say this. Let the Jew continue to do whatever he wants to do, kill, destroy, steal, wall off, besiege. That is what the Jew does. I'm just saying to leave the civilized people of the United States out of your psychotic rampage. You wouldn't understand but the sane people of the United States don't want to take anymore consequences from your murderous ways. Please, please continue to destroy, steal and murder as is your wont, but don't involve the US in funding and enabling your actions.

They throw that out to stifle debate. Hoping to scare people off. It worked great for many decades. Not so much now. Younger people are less bigoted and sort of expect a sense of fairness when discussing Palestinians. It's why I know these Israeli apologists are getting up their in age...Using these tired, worn out accusations that become less effective each time they use them.....Thanks for your post.

[sanrene]

Why can't these greedy grubbing people live in their already stolen land? It appears that the Jew cannot rest until he possesses that which belongs to somebody else, and will kill and destroy to get it. In the civilized world that is usually met with strong reaction which prompts them to cry "ANTI SEMITE!!! ANTI SEMITE!!!"

It is their land, they have ALWAYS been there and have claimed it. And then when their enemies get together and decide to attack, at which time Israel kicked their butts to there and back again, to the victor go the spoils, including land.

There will be no peace until there is a clear winner and a defeated loser.

The Israelis continue their racist ethnic cleansing in East Jerusalem which their benefactor the United States asked them to stop. The Israelis refused, said "f*ck you!" and demanded "Now give us the money!" to which the US meekly complied.

Uh...no, again. EJ is their capitol and they have always built there. Facts are pesky little things, I know.

[BigJon3475]

Originally Posted by quiet walker

Ha Ha! Here comes the anticipated "ANTI SEMITE!!! ANTI SEMITE!!!" that always comes if anyone questions in the slightest way possible the actions of the US funded and enabled pariah "state" of Israel.

Of Course this murderous, thieving, warmongering "state" is having problems with surrounding countries, which disagree with its deadly policies Why can't these greedy grubbing people live in their already stolen land? It appears that the Jew cannot rest until he possesses that which belongs to somebody else, and will kill and destroy to get it. In the civilized world that is usually met with strong reaction which prompts them to cry "ANTI SEMITE!!! ANTI SEMITE!!!"

The Israelis continue their racist ethnic cleansing in East Jerusalem which their benefactor the United States asked them to stop. The Israelis refused, said "f*ck you!" and demanded "Now give us the money!" to which the US meekly complied.

Again, to the the pro Israel lobby types that always appear in force whenever anyone questions their ways I say this. Let the Jew continue to do whatever he wants to do, kill, destroy, steal, wall off, besiege. That is what the Jew does. I'm just saying to leave the civilized people of the United States out of your psychotic rampage. You wouldn't understand but the sane people of the United States don't want to take anymore consequences from your murderous ways. Please, please continue to destroy, steal and murder as is your wont, but don't involve the US in funding and enabling your actions.

Your post is disturbingly ignorant in that it doesn't seem to acknowledge any facts and severely indulges hate (a hate which was exposed with a world war). Thankfully there are much smarter people in the world. Of course you'll find the ignorant willing to chant with you and your eerie Nazi ways.

The Avalon Project : Declaration of Israel's Independence 1948

[Lancet71]

Originally Posted by sanrene

It is their land, they have ALWAYS been there and have claimed it. And then when their enemies get together and decide to attack, at which time Israel kicked their butts to there and back again, to the victor go the spoils, including land.

There will be no peace until there is a clear winner and a defeated loser.



Uh...no, again. EJ is their capitol and they have always built there. Facts are pesky little things, I know.

Wow, I actually agree with you here.

[maschuette]

Isreal wont talk peace because they are surrounded by countries that want to kill them. The US is the one that has become the crappy allie. I think Isreal is great, they are the only ones in the middle east that dont have any natural resources and they are the only real industrialized country. And they are a bunch of badasses.

[padcrasher]

Originally Posted by maschuette

Isreal wont talk peace because they are surrounded by countries that want to kill them. The US is the one that has become the crappy allie. I think Isreal is great, they are the only ones in the middle east that dont have any natural resources and they are the only real industrialized country. And they are a bunch of badasses.

Read this simplistic misguided post above and then go read my link on this thread to Judt's essay published in Haaretz entitled Israel: The Country That Wouldn't Grow Up.

http://israelblog.com/1147619908/

Uncanny. He's described the mentality of the above poster to a tee.

[teach1234]

The most disgusting thing for me to watch was the 2006 Lebanese war, where Israel ran out of satellite guided munitions in the first 72 hours bombing whatever targets of significance might exist there (mud huts, goat herds, TV stations, water desalination plants, holes in the ground that Hezbollah might have been hiding in) and our American government rushed more bombs to them. If you can't do it with the bombs we already sold you for the last twenty years, don't ask for more.

And we rushed Israel these bombs while their spies sit in our prisons.

This is one of the most convoluted screwed up foreign policy decisions of all times... especially when we sent them our outdated cluster bombs with dud rates of 30% plus, which they dropped in the last 72 hours (when a UN ceasefire was a certainty) on mostly civilian areas... Oh, yeah, the Israeli government is a real peace partner.

I am not pretending that the Arabs would be any better, look what our Saudi Arabian "ally" has given us, the viper that runs our cars with their gas and kills our citizens through terrorism.

Given our government's track record of friends and allies, I'd like to choose the Iranian ally option.
We were allies with the Shah, who wouldn't win any Nobel Peace prize, and whose tyrannical behavior resulted in a virulently anti-American government upon his fall.

It certainly won't kill more Americans than our decades of support for Israel and Saudi Arabia have.

Think about it--Iran borders all of the countries we are losing blood and money in. If we were willing to support Islamic terrorists against the Russians, why not give the Iranians the money to support our interests in the Middle East and spare our troops the death and misery we have experienced for a decade (and will continue to for every year we continue to spend there?)

[padcrasher]

Originally Posted by teach1234

The most disgusting thing for me to watch was the 2006 Lebanese war, where Israel ran out of satellite guided munitions in the first 72 hours bombing whatever targets of significance might exist there (mud huts, goat herds, TV stations, water desalination plants, holes in the ground that Hezbollah might have been hiding in) and our American government rushed more bombs to them. If you can't do it with the bombs we already sold you for the last twenty years, don't ask for more.

And we rushed Israel these bombs while their spies sit in our prisons.

This is one of the most convoluted screwed up foreign policy decisions of all times... especially when we sent them our outdated cluster bombs with dud rates of 30% plus, which they dropped in the last 72 hours (when a UN ceasefire was a certainty) on mostly civilian areas... Oh, yeah, the Israeli government is a real peace partner.

I am not pretending that the Arabs would be any better, look what our Saudi Arabian "ally" has given us, the viper that runs our cars with their gas and kills our citizens through terrorism.

Given our government's track record of friends and allies, I'd like to choose the Iranian ally option.
We were allies with the Shah, who wouldn't win any Nobel Peace prize, and whose tyrannical behavior resulted in a virulently anti-American government upon his fall.

It certainly won't kill more Americans than our decades of support for Israel and Saudi Arabia have.

Think about it--Iran borders all of the countries we are losing blood and money in. If we were willing to support Islamic terrorists against the Russians, why not give the Iranians the money to support our interests in the Middle East and spare our troops the death and misery we have experienced for a decade (and will continue to for every year we continue to spend there?)

And they used white phosphorus on the Palestinians less than two years ago. http://www.google.com/images?client=...ed=0CCwQsAQwAw

As the Israeli apologist above said quoting...."Israel is a bunch of badasses!"

[maschuette]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

Read this simplistic misguided post above and then go read my link on this thread to Judt's essay published in Haaretz entitled Israel: The Country That Wouldn't Grow Up.

The country that wouldn’t grow up

Uncanny. He's described the mentality of the above poster to a tee.

Your just mad because you cant sum up your side of the story, so you want us to go read some bias book with a bunch of BS in it to tell your tale. Well, Iran hates us too, so regardless of your point i think i will back one of OUR only allies in the region.

[quiet walker]

Originally Posted by BigJon3475

Your post is disturbingly ignorant in that it doesn't seem to acknowledge any facts and severely indulges hate (a hate which was exposed with a world war).

What? ANTI-SEMITE!!! not working for you anymore? Ad hominem attacks on a member of the discussion as "disturbingly ignorant" Well I guess you don't have anything intelligent to add, but not unexpected I am well familiar with the anti US Israel Lobby types and all their tricks. And note that, as usual, you can't address any of the points I made in my posts. I gotta go now as it's getting very late. And, in the spirit of your insults, my Mother always taught me "Never get into an argument with an idiot"