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There are no plans for this kind of spill, they've all been tried. They didn't work.
BP was the best hope to stop the spill, and still are. The President has done all he humanly could to help contain the spill.
The EPA has an approved Disaster Plan for an oil spill. It was approved in 1994. It called for fire booms to be used. Sadly they never ordered any. They could have worked ahead of time to protect the shores.
No one asked anyone in the government to "stop the spill". Nothing was proactively done to protect the coast and that is their fault for not doing their job.
The EPA has an approved Disaster Plan for an oil spill. It was approved in 1994. It called for fire booms to be used. Sadly they never ordered any. They could have worked ahead of time to protect the shores.
No one asked anyone in the government to "stop the spill". Nothing was proactively done to protect the coast and that is their fault for not doing their job.
I don't care who ordered them, they are here. I know, I was out two weekends ago packing them with Alpaca hair.
*I know the picture isn't the ones I was filling, they were big and yellow, but they are still there, and they were ordered by someone, and thats all I care about, there is enough boom to go around, we've been shipping ours to LA*
I am quite sure Obama feels his responsibility is in both areas. It is now being found that the amount of oil gushing, may be more than 100,000 brls/day, not 19,000. If this is true or close to true, the impact will be much greater on shore and plugging the hole, even more urgent. The problem is huge, to all of us. If certain groups of people feel they need to criticize, go for it if it makes you feel better, most people want to help, even if it is only supporting the efforts.
That's true....and not ONE republican has offered up any ideas ....not the Drill, Baby, Drill Queen Palin, not the old fart who wanted to be president....not one ...The only thing repugs offer is criticism....whining because Obama didn't personally take control of the operations....and if he did they'd scream that he is power-crazy and egotisical and trying to make government bigger.......
The irony and hypocrisy of repugs all of a sudden pretending they have this great concern about the environment , pollution and the welfare of other Americans ... truly disgusting...
Too many times on this forum it seems that there is confusion as to where the discontent over the oil spill comes from. Some poster's even feel that conservatives are bashing Obama just to simply bash him. This couldn't be further from the truth. The response to the oil spill should enrage us all.
So lets clear the air for those who continue to confuse the issue:
The issue is not Obama's failure to "plug the damn hole." The issue is Obama's failure to devote the full resources of the Federal Government, in a timely manner, to contain the oil before it reached the shores of our valuable coastline.
* Instead of crafting jokes at the White House Correspondent's Dinner;
* Instead of gabbing it up with Jay Leno;
* Instead of delaying a visit to the Gulf by 11 days;
* Instead of photo ops with sports teams;
* Instead of a couple of vacations and multiple rounds of golf;
* Instead of fundraisers and stumping for legislators
Instead of these things, NONE of which contributes to the immediate prosperity of the country, Barack Obama should have been protecting our coastlines.
THIS is the issue that American's have with Barack Obama and his leadership during this time of crisis. Not some partisan bickery construed to imply that he could actually plug the hole himself. Lets be clear about that.
Then they weren't there with the last 4 Presidents either
Yes Memphis1979..my initial post on this specifically called out "1994" for when the plan was signed. I didn't post to bash the current administration.
My beef is with "the government" putting half-a**ed plans in place and then fumbling around like chickens without heads when disaster does strike.
Fill in the party/President of your choice as it really doesn't matter who is in power; the same fumbling and bumbling "we're in charge" atrophy happens.
There are no plans for this kind of spill, they've all been tried. They didn't work.
BP was the best hope to stop the spill, and still are. The President has done all he humanly could to help contain the spill.
Really, everything? Hardly.
Did he accept the skimmers from the Dutch when they were offered only 3 days after the spill began? NO!!
Did he approve the berms Jindal wanted to build to protect the marshes and beaches? NO!
When 17 countries, the UN and 4 international organizations offered to help (in multiple capacities...manpower, supplies, scientific expertise, etc) did he accept it? NO, he accepted help only from Mexico and Norway.
Are we using supertankers to suck up any of the oil? NO!!
As for plugging the hole....no one expects Obama to be able to do that...He can't even successfully plug Joe Biden's pie hole.
Yes Memphis1979..my initial post on this specifically called out "1994" for when the plan was signed. I didn't post to bash the current administration.
My beef is with "the government" putting half-a**ed plans in place and then fumbling around like chickens without heads when disaster does strike.
Fill in the party/President of your choice as it really doesn't matter who is in power; the same fumbling and bumbling "we're in charge" atrophy happens.
Actually, many of the provisions that he was talking about go back to 1969, they were updated in 94.
What it says is that there has to be a plan in place for a "worst case" situation.
However, BP and other oil companies have said multiple times that they could contain a spill, that THEY had everything in place to take care of it. This happened under the Bush administration.
We've been pumping oil out of the Gulf for a long time now, and at no time were they prepared for the worst case scenario. Blaming the President who happened to be in office when the crap hits the fan, isn't going to do any good. The fact is that we weren't prepared for this situation, our government believed the oil companies had the equipment in place to stop it, and they didn't.
They meet with all rules and regulations, and have done what is within their power to do. There are booms down here EVERYWHERE, trust me, I see them daily. All along the bay, inlets, and grassy waterfronts.
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