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Unread 11-19-2011, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Leaeve the kid alone...he has every right to say what he feels like and to move to Portland for any reason he wants.
Sure he does, and so do we. Can't help but notice he hasn't been back here since he posted. Look, he's just another kid with a useless degree, wanting to come to a town for a job he won't find, looking to live in an area he won't be able to afford even with a degree and a job. And, he wants it to be all white. Good frickin' luck.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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It's hilarious that one of the posters equated the thread starter to being a "white supremacist" simply because he wants to live around other white people.

You must be trolling..

And to davemess10, I'm from Austin, Texas which is pretty darn politically correct as well. Definitely not as 'radical' as Portland but the mentality is noticeably different from most other parts of Texas.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 01:30 AM
 
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Just so you know, in case that's what you're looking for, we don't have much use for white supremacists here. If I'm mistaken, my apologies. But your post is a bit alarming.
Okay, everyone calling me a "white supremacist" LOL.

Let me start by saying, Detroit is 88% black. You obviously don't know much about the racial tension in Detroit caused by the 1968 riots and the pure hatred between the races. If you're white and walking down a street you WILL get jumped and beat up for being white in Detroit. One of my friends was just murdered by a gang of black men over a projector he was carrying into an auditorium. While there are good black people and I know many. I fail to see how I'm racist because I PREFER to live where I feel comfortable. Take your white apologist self and don't post on my question if you don't like it. You've been in a 75% white city, come to Detroit and walk around in a city that averages a murder per day with no cops around and call me a white supremacist.

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Unread 11-20-2011, 01:41 AM
 
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Sure he does, and so do we. Can't help but notice he hasn't been back here since he posted. Look, he's just another kid with a useless degree, wanting to come to a town for a job he won't find, looking to live in an area he won't be able to afford even with a degree and a job. And, he wants it to be all white. Good frickin' luck.
I go to the University of Michigan - Ann Arbor. My degree isn't worthless? Maybe you've heard of it, it's considered a public Ivy.

I would find a job before I left for Portland obviously, so the rest of your meandering post is irrelevant.

Let me post a video for you, so you can see why I don't feel comfortable living in Detroit/ by another race.

http://youtu.be/A8dz40AOOmA

The whole city is like that, and some surrounding mini cities. Sprinkle in gangs, the most violent crime in the nation, a failing corrupt political and school system, and you have Detroit. It's not called the 'murder capital' of the world for nothing, and it suffers from reverse racism (racism toward white men/women) I'm sure there's also racism of whites toward blacks but the city like I said, is 88% black. I don't feel comfortable walking around as a minority. Is it racist because Asians choose to live in Chinatown, NY? What about the biggest Arab population living in a close, tight knit community in Dearborn, MI? Let me say this though; come here if you want, I'm sure you'll love it, cause' you're not racist right? You'll do fine! and please, walk around at night (without a gun - see how far you'll get!)

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Unread 11-20-2011, 02:17 AM
 
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Here are just some more videos of Detroit. Honestly, this isn't a once in a life occurrence. You will literally see these things all the time in Detroit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRHHQlA56bk

http://youtu.be/Cp_yZUXZBvs (broken link)

http://youtu.be/q43coONUJtE

Tons more on youtube. Seriously, watch all the videos I posted and then tell me I'm racist again because I prefer to live where I'll feel comfortable.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 07:08 AM
 
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In fairness, you do say,
I'm also white and from the white suburbs of Detroit

Detroit has some lovely suburbs, Ann arbor is so lovely (especially in fall)
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Unread 11-20-2011, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's hilarious that one of the posters equated the thread starter to being a "white supremacist" simply because he wants to live around other white people.

You must be trolling..
Please look up the definition of trolling before you start using the word.

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Okay, everyone calling me a "white supremacist" LOL.

I fail to see how I'm racist because I PREFER to live where I feel comfortable. Take your white apologist self and don't post on my question if you don't like it. You've been in a 75% white city, come to Detroit and walk around in a city that averages a murder per day with no cops around and call me a white supremacist.
Please look up the definition of "apologist" before using it.

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I go to the University of Michigan - Ann Arbor. My degree isn't worthless? Maybe you've heard of it, it's considered a public Ivy.
There are people all over the country with degrees from PRIVATE Ivy League schools who can't find a job in their field, much less a job as a barista. Read the news.

I would find a job before I left for Portland obviously, so the rest of your meandering post is irrelevant.

Read this forum about how difficult it is to find a job here, much less finding one before you even arrive. Oh, and look up the definition of "meandering"

Let me post a video for you, so you can see why I don't feel comfortable living in Detroit/ by another race.

Detroit - The Real Hood - YouTube

The whole city is like that, and some surrounding mini cities. Sprinkle in gangs, the most violent crime in the nation, a failing corrupt political and school system, and you have Detroit. It's not called the 'murder capital' of the world for nothing, and it suffers from reverse racism (racism toward white men/women) I'm sure there's also racism of whites toward blacks but the city like I said, is 88% black. I don't feel comfortable walking around as a minority. Is it racist because Asians choose to live in Chinatown, NY? What about the biggest Arab population living in a close, tight knit community in Dearborn, MI? Let me say this though; come here if you want, I'm sure you'll love it, cause' you're not racist right? You'll do fine! and please, walk around at night (without a gun - see how far you'll get!)
If you had stated your reasons for wanting to live in a "white" city in your original post, you might have been cut some slack. But you just put it out there without regard to how it might be perceived.
Bottom line - do your homework before you post. The information you seek is all over this forum. You might have found out the following:

Jobs are very hard to find here, especially when applying from out of state.
The Pacific Northwest is earthquake prone and we are due for a big one. And then there's the volcanoes.
And we have lots of rain.
The Pearl is expensive and so are the loft apartments.
College degrees, even from Ivy League colleges, are increasingly worthless in today's job market. It's not your fault, it's just the way it is. Employers don't really care. They want a degree AND experience and they'll pay as low as they can.
Portland is a magnet for young people like you for a variety of reasons. But we are not utopia and things are as rough here as pretty much everywhere else.
Your degree will more than likely not get you a job that allows you to live in the Pearl and have much of a nightlife. It just won't pay enough.
If you move here, you will get your wish to live in a "white" city. But don't make the mistake of thinking that there aren't racial tensions and problems here. And you won't run into very many people who will not recoil if you start talking about how "white" we are. That said, you will probably be more comfortable here (racially) than you are in Detroit.
I wish you luck as you sail forth into the world with your new degree, but please educate yourself about the realities of life in Portland and especially this wretched economy. I wish the world had the opportunities for you that it did when I was your age, but alas, it doesn't. Good luck, young man, wherever you land.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Portland OR
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Dubs1010,
Welcome to Portland. I hope it works for you. Please bring some midwestern common sense with you.

Do not think that a few posers who seem to spend a lot of time in a in web chat room represent a city in total. They do not.

Downtown you will find a few silly tatoo'd kids who like to think they will change the world, but in general, it is just a smaller city of people trying to make in in the world.

If you have a technical degree, you should do just fine.
I moved here from Chicago to develop an Engineering Dept. for my employer. It is hard to find qualified people and I now am resorting to paying big bucks to transfer midwesterners and Asians here. The local population is not too proficient in electro-mechanical, engineering based skills.

Good luck!
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Unread 11-20-2011, 05:42 PM
 
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Please look up the definition of trolling before you start using the word.



Please look up the definition of "apologist" before using it.



If you had stated your reasons for wanting to live in a "white" city in your original post, you might have been cut some slack. But you just put it out there without regard to how it might be perceived.
Bottom line - do your homework before you post. The information you seek is all over this forum. You might have found out the following:

Jobs are very hard to find here, especially when applying from out of state.
The Pacific Northwest is earthquake prone and we are due for a big one. And then there's the volcanoes.
And we have lots of rain.
The Pearl is expensive and so are the loft apartments.
College degrees, even from Ivy League colleges, are increasingly worthless in today's job market. It's not your fault, it's just the way it is. Employers don't really care. They want a degree AND experience and they'll pay as low as they can.
Portland is a magnet for young people like you for a variety of reasons. But we are not utopia and things are as rough here as pretty much everywhere else.
Your degree will more than likely not get you a job that allows you to live in the Pearl and have much of a nightlife. It just won't pay enough.
If you move here, you will get your wish to live in a "white" city. But don't make the mistake of thinking that there aren't racial tensions and problems here. And you won't run into very many people who will not recoil if you start talking about how "white" we are. That said, you will probably be more comfortable here (racially) than you are in Detroit.
I wish you luck as you sail forth into the world with your new degree, but please educate yourself about the realities of life in Portland and especially this wretched economy. I wish the world had the opportunities for you that it did when I was your age, but alas, it doesn't. Good luck, young man, wherever you land.
Your post was actually really helpful. I think if you would of known my mentality, or walked a mile in my shoes so to speak you would know more so why I want to move away.

As far as definitions, my use of the phrase 'white apologist' was used to allude to the fact that you're treating the matter like I was insensitive to blacks. Making yourself seem like you were superior to me because you had more empathy for the black race, and how dare I want to live apart from them. A white apologist is quite simply a white man or woman who feels guilt of slavery and the persecution of the black race.

Meandering by definition means to wander at random. The post about my education seemed to follow a false premise and go on and on about 'what would happen'. Nothing was really relevant because I'll have a bachelors degree in accounting from U of M, and I'm not one to take risks and just leave without a paper job offer. I anticipate a challenging job search, but I do believe that my school gives me an edge over schools like Concordia, etc. out there.

Sorry if I came off like a dick at all, I just feel that if you knew me personally you'd know I was a good guy and that I didn't mean to offend anyone. I'm from the Midwest, I'm down to earth from a middle-class family. I'm not elitist or racist. I do come from a white suburb, not Ann Arbor (I just went to school here). I'm only a 10 minute drive from inner city Detroit though. So crime is still rampant where I live.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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Meandering by definition means to wander at random. The post about my education seemed to follow a false premise and go on and on about 'what would happen'. Nothing was really relevant because I'll have a bachelors degree in accounting from U of M, and I'm not one to take risks and just leave without a paper job offer. I anticipate a challenging job search, but I do believe that my school gives me an edge over schools like Concordia, etc. out there.
But we have universities as well. With excellent business programs. They have an edge on getting their graduates employment who are already living here.

Your competition will also be with the many people who are seeking jobs of this type who are also coming from other states. I think the statement made by sayulita was just the usual caution to people wanting to relocate who really do not have a picture of how fierce the competion for any job other than high-tech or medical can be.

And I can tell you from experience that Bachelor's in accounting degrees from good schools are not always enough. Most employers will want a Masters and experience becuase they know they can get them.

Having said that, I will say you are wise in doing some job hunting before you move. If you decide to relocate without a job waiting for you, you can take something like temp work in the meantime while you are looking for your permanent position.
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