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Old 05-06-2012, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Palestine
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I will take all the engineers that California will send our way. It's the low lives that should stay in CA.
Yea like the race mixers and nouveau riche yuppies. Poor whites who don't aspire to be homeless and want to work like me should be welcome though. And I am sick to death of peoples prejudices because thats what they are.. they scoot around the race issue but clearly demonstrate bigoted behavior in other ways like how a person dresses or they aren't listening to the hottest new band or even intolerance for the so called intolerant has statistically proven to be worse than the original intolerants setting their ways... thats what gets me mad about people who decide to create division over the silliest things.. bottom line.. if you are bringing your destructive beliefs somewhere or your non productive ways, the residents shouldn't want those people no matter where they come from.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Palestine
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i had a great whatever grandpa that was on the oregon trail

im glad the californians haven't changed the portland metro into one of there cities, with wide streets and a lot of highways.
Maybe they actually were the ones who left California for the right reason.. they didn't want to turn it into what they left perhaps although you can bet the Pearl District has some ex L.A people.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Palestine
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Well, if it makes the OP feel any better, when I moved to Portland back in the late 70's people were told me I was unwanted because I relocated from Chicago.
Its because you were Jewish more than likely and many get a bad rap... they just didn't want to sound bias. Otherwise I can't think of a more ridiculous reason than that especially since Chicago isn't really a rival to Portland in that many ways.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Yes, one of the first things newcomers need to learn is to shut up about their religion.
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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I have been in Oregon since 1993 and received that treatment in a big way when I first moved here and it lasted about 5 years. I found it quite disconcerting as well. My husband a home grown Oregonian told me that years ago there was a sign that said something to the affect of "Welcome to Oregon a nice place to visit but please don't stay" actual billboards courtesy of Gov. Tom McCall.

I found it amusing much later when doing some genealogy I discovered that my family had actually been in Oregon considerably longer than most of the people treating me poorly. Eh consider the source and enjoy the greenery...and yes I arrived in Oregon via California and had also lived in Washington.
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Its because you were Jewish more than likely and many get a bad rap... they just didn't want to sound bias. Otherwise I can't think of a more ridiculous reason than that especially since Chicago isn't really a rival to Portland in that many ways.
No, they told me loud and clear that they felt I had potentially taken away a job from an Oregonian. That is why they were so mean. They treated the guy transplanted from the Chicago office before me who I was replacing in the same manner. He quit because they made him feel so unwelcome and a little bit afraid.

But I don't frighten easily.


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Yes, one of the first things newcomers need to learn is to shut up about their religion.
Well, unless they called my relatives back in Chicago and asked what religion I was they had no way of knowing what religion I was. I never mentioned it to the people in that particular job. I guess I gave that impression when I posted that I told people with whom I worked that I was Jewish when they asked me what I was doing for Christmas. But that never happened there.

At this particular job the subject of celebrating Christmas or any other holiday never came up. Believe me these people barely spoke to me let alone ask me how I was going to celebrate a religious holiday.

But in any case, had they asked I would have told them as I would tell anyone. I mean if someone asks me how I am going to celebrate a holiday I don't celebrate, I'm not going to make up a story. For example if someone where to ask you what were you going to do for Kwanzaa but you didn't celebrate Kwanzaa, wouldn't you tell them so? Or would you just tell them to mind their own business?

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Old 05-07-2012, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Palestine
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I have been in Oregon since 1993 and received that treatment in a big way when I first moved here and it lasted about 5 years. I found it quite disconcerting as well. My husband a home grown Oregonian told me that years ago there was a sign that said something to the affect of "Welcome to Oregon a nice place to visit but please don't stay" actual billboards courtesy of Gov. Tom McCall.

I found it amusing much later when doing some genealogy I discovered that my family had actually been in Oregon considerably longer than most of the people treating me poorly. Eh consider the source and enjoy the greenery...and yes I arrived in Oregon via California and had also lived in Washington.
You must have been doing something wrong then because everyones been nice to me. Hell even the Portland cops in the 2 instances I met up with them and the cops seen I had CA plates too. I don't know what to say about this.. its possible you could have run into a yuppie bunch maybe or more aristocratic West Hills crowd? I don't surround myself with the bad elements of this city or try not to so..
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Palestine
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No, they told me loud and clear that they felt I had potentially taken away a job from an Oregonian. That is why they were so mean. They treated the guy transplanted from the Chicago office before me who I was replacing in the same manner. He quit because they made him feel so unwelcome and a little bit afraid.

But I don't frighten easily.




Well, unless they called my relatives back in Chicago and asked what religion I was they had no way of knowing what religion I was. I never mentioned it to the people in that particular job. I guess I gave that impression when I posted that I told people with whom I worked that I was Jewish when they asked me what I was doing for Christmas. But that never happened there.

At this particular job the subject of celebrating Christmas or any other holiday never came up. Believe me these people barely spoke to me let alone ask me how I was going to celebrate a religious holiday.

But in any case, had they asked I would have told them as I would tell anyone. I mean if someone asks me how I am going to celebrate a holiday I don't celebrate, I'm not going to make up a story. For example if someone where to ask you what were you going to do for Kwanzaa but you didn't celebrate Kwanzaa, wouldn't you tell them so? Or would you just tell them to mind their own business?
Strange that people have this stuff happen to them.. it must be an elitist crowd that some people hang around or work with because its never happened to me and I have an accent and everything from the East Coast.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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My husband a home grown Oregonian told me that years ago there was a sign that said something to the affect of "Welcome to Oregon a nice place to visit but please don't stay" actual billboards courtesy of Gov. Tom McCall.
Your husband is wrong. No such thing.

It all stemmed from an interview McCall made in which he said something along those lines. Going on to explain that, though huge efforts were being made, there was not yet the infrastructure for a large influx of immigrants.

Of course, the first part is all that was keyed on. It became a joke, and spawned lots of "don't stay" type products.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Bay Area - Portland
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...As I mentioned before, the only problem with Californians is that there are 37 million of them. It makes them sick. Some of them recover when they move out of the cesspool, others never do.
The only problem with Oregonians is their weather and the lack of sunshine. Apparently it makes them cliquish and narrow mined. Some recover when they make friends with transplants from California and other states, realizing Oregon isn’t the center of the universe, others never do.
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