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11-18-2007, 04:44 PM
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Something to consider....
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11-19-2007, 11:41 AM
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Thanks for this information, I found it to be very interesting. Truth be told, whether you subscribe to the global warming theory or not, as a planet our climate has never been static. Chances are, if all the negative human activities had never taken place we would still be seeing noticeable changes when looked at from a long-range perspective. Unfortunately, there has been a huge impact on our climate from the mere existance of growing population and its need for and use of resources. So unless we want to actually try to put controls and limits on future population growth (not gonna happen), this change will continue to be inevitable.
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11-23-2007, 02:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redrover
Thanks for this information, I found it to be very interesting. Truth be told, whether you subscribe to the global warming theory or not, as a planet our climate has never been static. Chances are, if all the negative human activities had never taken place we would still be seeing noticeable changes when looked at from a long-range perspective. Unfortunately, there has been a huge impact on our climate from the mere existance of growing population and its need for and use of resources. So unless we want to actually try to put controls and limits on future population growth (not gonna happen), this change will continue to be inevitable.
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Love your comment. Very sensible and realistic.
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11-24-2007, 12:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redrover
Thanks for this information, I found it to be very interesting. Truth be told, whether you subscribe to the global warming theory or not, as a planet our climate has never been static. Chances are, if all the negative human activities had never taken place we would still be seeing noticeable changes when looked at from a long-range perspective. Unfortunately, there has been a huge impact on our climate from the mere existance of growing population and its need for and use of resources. So unless we want to actually try to put controls and limits on future population growth (not gonna happen), this change will continue to be inevitable.
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I agree. Overpopulation seems to be the elephant in the room that no one wants to discuss.
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11-24-2007, 05:07 PM
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Portland's climate (and all of the West coast, really) is a fluke . The high lattitude would predispose it to freezing winters ( a la Maine) and lots of snow, but the whole Pacific coastal area was blessed with a wonderful temperate marine climate. There are very few places in the world that have this, actually.
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11-25-2007, 06:09 PM
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the thing about climate change is that it's happening, and even if right now we stopped doing anything that may be (and most like is) contributing to it, it's going to continue for decades. and we can't stop using fossil fuels the whole world over right this minute either. so basically it's inevitable for all of our lifetimes. fortunately, most of the severe effects won't be felt in our lifetimes either. but yeah, it's only one facet of a larger problem, which is the tendency of people to ignore problems that are more than a couple years ahead of them.
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11-25-2007, 06:31 PM
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the house will be cleaned.....
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