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Old 10-16-2013, 12:44 PM
 
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Thanks EnricoV. It's good to have some facts to go off of before this thread turns ugly.
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Old 10-16-2013, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Service dogs don't have to wear a vest or any other identification which can be problematic in terms of identifying legitimate dogs. The only dogs I've seen in the green vests are guide dog puppies in training and autism service dogs in training, but that's due to the protocol of the local training agencies.
You are correct, the coats are not green, they are red for helper dogs. These do not have to be in carriers.

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Old 10-16-2013, 01:15 PM
 
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Service dog vests/coats are available for purchase online, so one cannot assume that every dog wearing one is legit. Legit service dogs are not required to wear one, either.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I was in Pacific City over Labor Day at the coffee shop opposite The Pelican. As I was inside, an elderly couple came in looking for the owner of a dog that was tied up directly outside the entrance. The dog had bitten the lady as she walked in, and the owner said, "my dog never bites, I just don't understand why she would bite you". Well, the fact is that the dog DID bite the lady and likely unprovoked, so it does happen. And that's why so many, including myself, are a bit uncomfortable with having dogs w/I attacking range, because some dogs CAN be unpredictable. As a dog owner myself, I would NEVER take my dog on public transportation w/o being crated. And since my dog is 50lbs, crating isn't really an option on public transport, therefore we drive her where she needs to be taken.
I think people forget that dogs are pack animals. They are loyal to their packs, i.e. families and wouldn't hurt their pack/family members but outsiders are outsiders. I once was simply walking toward a man walking his dog. I did nothing aggressive but the dog nipped at me as we passed one another. The man was horrified. The dog got my pants but fortunately didn't get my leg. It was leashed do it's not like any laws were broken but I did suggest the man muzzle the mutt next time he took him out. He assured me the dog had never, ever done this before. Small comfort.

The dog was just a medium size mutt. No pit bull, not particular breed. Maybe he was just being playful who knows?

Animals are unpredictable. They think bite first and ask questions later. They bite when they are frightened, excited, hurt, annoyed or for a million other reasons. It's often a form of expression for them as well as aggression. I used to have a cat who would bite in play. No hard feelings. Saying your animal "never bites" doesn't mean it never will.
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Old 10-16-2013, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Thanks EnricoV. It's good to have some facts to go off of before this thread turns ugly.
Yeah. I'm sure, though, that the statistics get skewed by the number of people who own those breeds of dogs and train them to attack. But even so, different ones have been bred to encourage certin characteristics, that even if it's not a part of their everyday lives, the instinct is still there. And unfortunately, some of them were bred for guarding and fighting.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:14 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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If it is on the bus, I am going to assume that it is a service animal and not complain, as long as the dog is behaving itself.
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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If it is on the bus, I am going to assume that it is a service animal and not complain, as long as the dog is behaving itself.
You don't take the bus very often do you?
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Mountains of Oregon
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You don't take the bus very often do you?
I used to be a bus driver when I was in college. "Step all the way to the rear, folks. DOn't SHove"......
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:45 PM
 
Location: SNA=>PDX 2013
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Too many people think that because they love their dogs, everyone else will (or should), too. There are just so many thoughtless dog owners. One of my pet peeves is approaching a store where a dog is tied up at the door, and you can't get in (or out) the door without being within the dog's reach. I don't know your dog. I don't know it's not going to bite. And there are too many people out there (I'm not one of them ... I actually like dogs) who are afraid of dogs. And a lot of them are small children. How thoughtless of the dog owner to subject others to that.

A bus? It's even worse. It's a confined area with (often) people packed closely in. The breed of the dog is immaterial. But bigger, more aggressive looking dogs (yes, I know it's perception ... the little yappy dogs are often worse) ... that's even worse.

DogBites.org
I agree with all of what you're saying, however, I'm not saying dogs don't bite, but here's the problem with the link you posted. I wanted to do a quick search on it and the first two words following that came up behind it was "exposed" and "lies". That leads me to believe that the site is untrustworthy. Doing a bit more digging and I definitely wouldn't trust anything on that site.

It also led to this link, which basically showed the owner of the site, lying about her attack by a pit bull (not that it didn't happen, just that she started lying about how it happened).

It's great you're going to post links and stats, but at least post ones that if searched, don't have "lies" and "exposed" behind it immediately. I always check where things came from. This study (if you can call it that) was "Compiled by the editor of ANIMAL PEOPLE from press accounts since 1982". Um, so basically the numbers are showing what is press worthy? Sorry, that's not a study at all!!! Those stats are so skewed. I mean, seriously, if we looked at the press for stats, then every stereotype would be proven.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:58 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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Since it was a pit bull, and trimet, I'm willing to bet it was one the street kids. I know, I know... I'm sterotyping... but...
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