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Old 08-13-2015, 11:27 PM
 
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So I have been in a mood lately so I apologize in advance if I word something incorrectly or sound rude to the OP. I read your post and from a native San Franciscan, I laughed at most of your criteria. I laughed because I wanted about half of what you listed when I moved from NYC almost six years a go. First off, you will not get what you want. My kid attended one of the "best schools" on the East side in PPS and I can tell you that the "best schools" in PPS are NOT diverse. Not even for Portland, let alone East Bay. I thought most of what you listed was important to me too, until I lived in Portland for almost six years... then I realized half of my criteria was not important to me or my family. We are moving to Beaverton this week. The rule here is that people of color especially American born or multi generational POC and Asians live out in Washington county. Portland is more segregated which is very noticeable at Portland schools. PPS is working on an equity plan with boundary changes as we speak. You can check out FB pages devoted to the subject. The groups are active and knowledgable. I didn't like any neighborhood in SE six years a go and still don't. Not my cup of tea. You need to come and see for yourself. There is a vibe, look and feel of SE that makes me uncomfortable. I enjoyed the community of inner NE and it is sad to say goodbye to an area that was good to me and my family for the most part. I don't like North Portland much because the gentrification bothers me and so do hipsters in the majority. Just me, I guess. NW is very nice but I wouldn't live there. I do love the SW and that's part of the reason i am moving to Beaverton. It took me a long time here in Portland to find my area. I researched this move carefully and networked with peeps in the area and I travel there regularly to know it's the right place for my diverse family with special needs. We are still so close to SW Prtland, where Downtown is located, yet Beaverton feels just right for what I want NOW, not what I wanted six years a go. I suggest that you rent first and then buy and try out different quadrants of Portland. There are plenty of parks in Portland and there are farmers' markets, a ton of high quality grocery stores, bakeries, independent shops. The NE has a Berkeley feel to it. The people will be familiar to you but without a lot of real diversity. The schools with the most " community" are going to cost you. Also, I thought my neighborhood school was going to be wonderful since both my kids would go there. Well, NO, I found out my son is autistic before kinder and he went to a different school for Spec Ed. That's a long story but I learned an important lesson. You can plan with your criteria and think you will stay somewhere for decades... then a glitch in your plan arises. That's life. That's parenthood. You haven't started a family yet and you have plenty of time to worry about schools. There are no guarantees no matter how much you plan. Good luck to you.
You don't sound rude at all and I really appreciate you posting.

Right before I read your post I looked up some more info about Riverdale School District and was shocked to read the high school is over 90% white. Diversity is really important to me for both myself and what I want to raise my kids around. I happen to be American-born and white but that's not even relevant here. Today I hung out with a Tibetan friend then an Ethiopian friend (neither are American-born) and walked through Berkeley streets full of a rainbow of people with authentic shops and restaurants from so many cultures. Now I'm home in my mostly Asian neighborhood where shoes off at door and rice cookers are the norm. There was once beautiful traditional drumming and singing by Africans right outside my door. I absolutely love not being surrounded by 90% white faces. Us white people are great and varied too but still.

Honestly I'm wondering if my idea to move to Portland isn't the best idea. It was my best attempt at picking a long-term city after researching for months to find a city like Berkeley but with certain improvements (less hectic, cheaper rent, cleaner air, etc.) but maybe it's not smart.

It's starting to really confuse me how hard it is to find not too hectically urban of places with high diversity. It is strange to read about how the homeless in Portland are increasingly black. Kinda confused about race and class and poverty and crime in America...will have to take some classes on the topic. Something seems fishy.

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Old 08-13-2015, 11:29 PM
 
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you can't get from anywhere in WA to downtown Portland in a reasonable amount of time without a car
Good to know.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:39 PM
 
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You don't sound rude at all and I really appreciate you posting. Right before I read your post I looked up some more info about Riverdale School District and was shocked to read the high school is over 90% white. Diversity is really important to me for both myself and what I want to raise my kids around. I happen to be American-born and white but that's not even relevant here. Today I hung out with a Tibetan friend then an Ethiopian friend (neither are American-born) and walked through Berkeley streets full of a rainbow of people with authentic shops and restaurants from so many cultures. Now I'm home in my mostly Asian neighborhood where shoes off at door and rice cookers are the norm. I absolutely love not being surrounded by 90% white faces. Us white people are great and varied too but still. Honestly I'm wondering if my idea to move to Portland isn't the best idea. It was my best attempt at picking a long-term city after researching for months to find a city like Berkeley but with certain improvements (less hectic, cheaper rent, cleaner air, etc.) but maybe it's not smart.
whats wrong with White People?
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:47 PM
 
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whats wrong with White People?
but on a serious note, Portland is one of the only cities in the US that's getting whiter (if that's a word), so if that's not your thing I'd look elsewhere, maybe Seattle.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:48 PM
 
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You listed the educational requirements first, so I figure this is the most important thing to you.

Here's the 2014 school performance metrics for the entire state: 2014 Oregon school performance ratings :: Your Schools - The Oregonian

In SW, your school district choices will be Portland Public Schools, Riverdale SD, Lake Oswego SD, West Linn-Wilsonville SD, Tigard-Tualatin SD, and Beaverton SD.

Based on where your place of employment will be in SW, look at the performance of the schools in that area and within a 5-mile radius of your work so that you minimize the distance from work to the school (because, life). Make a list of those schools, then look up the individual school attendance boundary maps. For example, here's a map for attendance boundaries for all Beaverton elementary schools: https://www.beaverton.k12.or.us/dept...Elementary.pdf

Once you find the schools that you like, start investigating the neighborhoods for all the other things on your list. Generally, being gay or crunchy will pretty much be no problem in any neighborhood in the Metro area. If you find an area that you have kindred spirits, then that will be great. But at a minimum you'll be surrounded by people who don't give a hoot about your being vegan, artsy, or outdoorsy.

Good luck!
Thank you!
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:50 PM
 
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post your WA questions on WA forum
Look I don't know what you want me to do. Posted here cause want info comparing those WA areas to those OR areas, both of which are Portland metro area and Portland section is in Oregon forum. Am I supposed to delete this thread or stop replying to people nice enough to comment here? I didn't know there was any rule and don't know the point of that rule.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:56 PM
 
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whats wrong with White People?
Nothing. There's nothing wrong with women but I don't want to live in a neighborhood that is 90% women. Variety is the spice of life. Diversity makes people more part of the global community. I'm not trying to insult people. I just value certain things. Maybe I'll just politely duck out of this thread and think more about if moving to Portland is my best choice. It sounds wonderful. Every city is wonderful. Just trying to find my nest. Think I'll sign off for now.
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Old 08-14-2015, 01:40 AM
 
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Nothing. There's nothing wrong with women but I don't want to live in a neighborhood that is 90% women. Variety is the spice of life. Diversity makes people more part of the global community. I'm not trying to insult people. I just value certain things. Maybe I'll just politely duck out of this thread and think more about if moving to Portland is my best choice. It sounds wonderful. Every city is wonderful. Just trying to find my nest. Think I'll sign off for now.
From Wikipedia

The census reported the city as 76.1% White (444,254 people), 7.1% Asian (41,448), 6.3% Black or African American (36,778), 1.0% Native American (5,838), 0.5% Pacific Islander (2,919), 4.7% belonging to two or more racial groups (24,437) and 5.0% from other races (28,987).[64] 9.4% were Hispanic or Latino, of any race (54,840). Whites not of Hispanic origin made up 72.2% of the total population.
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Old 08-14-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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Portland is very white and if that's how you measure diversity, you will be disappointed. There are other levels of diversity around. I loved that my local grocery store had hispanic, asian and russian food aisles.

But, I've been disappointed in the level of apparent diversity on the whole of the west coast since I moved here.
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Old 08-14-2015, 04:47 PM
 
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Portland and Seattle are the two whitest major cities in the US. That's just a fact due largely to settlement and immigration patterns. The area was originally settled mainly by Scandinavian and northern-European immigrants in the 19th and early 20th centuries. It is as far as you can get from the Mexican border so there wasn't much Hispanic immigration at all until quite recently so nothing like California or the Southwest. The Northwest is also as far as you can get from the deep south Confederate states so African Americans didn't traditionally settle there until the industrial boom during WW-II brought a lot of migrants from the south to work in the shipyards and aircraft factories. And basically the area has grown fairly slowly without the giant booms and busts of other states like Texas that draw in giant numbers of new migrants from time to time. Seattle has been more boom and bust than Portland.

If you want to live in an ethnic polyglot type of city then places like LA or Houston or Miami are going to be far more diverse, especially at the upper income levels. It is what it is. Portland is a paragon of diversity compared to other smaller cities in the northwest like Spokane, Boise, Eugene, or Bend which you will find astonishingly white compared to similar sized cities in California.
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