Anyone else who has moved to Portland find it vastly overrated? (Beaver: real estate, houses)

[harrishawke]

Originally Posted by EasyBeezy

Someone from Oregon is aware of the climate and culture of the area and is less likely to bail when thing are not going their way. ALOT of people move here, find it distasteful or disappointing for whatever reason and move away. Employees that leave prematurely cost employers dearly and they are always looking for someone that looks like they will be there for the long haul.

This is an interesting point. Perhaps hiring managers are also turning away transplants because of the turnover risk. I just stumbled on an Oregonian article that last year more people moved away from Portland than moved in. This is contrary to many years of influx.

More people moved away from Portland than moved in during peak relocation season | OregonLive.com

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by Leisesturm

$45K/yr. and no experience necessary... are you sure you want to know UL? I would have passed on a help wanted ad like that myself.

I kind of do want to know, but at the same time, I can see why everyone passed it up. As my dad always told me, if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

[gray horse]

Originally Posted by EasyBeezy

I have a bit of a unique perspective on this, as I am a transplant, but I went to an Oregon university as an out of state student. In my experience, potential employers in have been very receptive to my alma mater, even though it is far from an elite university. Perhaps the subject of this thread has something to do with the reason why there is a bias toward in state undergrads in employment. Someone from Oregon is aware of the climate and culture of the area and is less likely to bail when thing are not going their way. ALOT of people move here, find it distasteful or disappointing for whatever reason and move away. Employees that leave prematurely cost employers dearly and they are always looking for someone that looks like they will be there for the long haul.

This may be very true...I was shocked when I took a job at a RE firm and the first introduction in a conference room, everyone introduced themselves and said they were a "Duck" or "Beaver". Coming from Silicon Valley where you have people from all over the globe...I was like "are these folks serious"?

[CanuckInPortland]

Originally Posted by harrishawke

This is an interesting point. Perhaps hiring managers are also turning away transplants because of the turnover risk. I just stumbled on an Oregonian article that last year more people moved away from Portland than moved in. This is contrary to many years of influx.

More people moved away from Portland than moved in during peak relocation season | OregonLive.com

Though that's just based on United Van Lines rental data(which is just one moving company) and an article from last year. The population of Portland(and Multnomah County) increased over the last year, rentals are still hard to get because of people moving here, and newer places are selling pretty fast.

If the influx has slowed(it could have from the last couple years), it's hard to tell right now. Cities these days have people moving in and out all the time, but overall I haven't seen any other evidence that there's a net loss in population in Portland.

[Koale]

Originally Posted by gray horse

EXCELLENT POST! I'm a transplant from CA with Google and Apple seriously trying to recruit me back to CA, but there are no positions that I can work in PDX...well maybe for $35K a year vs. $200k+ in Silicon Valley. Fortunately I'm self employed, and can operate remotely as I'm in the software industry.


It's the old boys club here...you don't even have to have a college degree to land a job at Nike if you have an inside connection. Also women need to keep in mind, up here they expect women to get a "secretary's salary" no matter how smart you are.


It's a super depressed economy that does not match the COL.


I'm leaving, as I might as well live somewhere a little cheaper with better weather since this place has no future. It's a gorgeous area to live in, if you can take the rain...and if you have a trust fund AND no ambition.

bye bye, then...

[harrishawke]

Originally Posted by gray horse

This may be very true...I was shocked when I took a job at a RE firm and the first introduction in a conference room, everyone introduced themselves and said they were a "Duck" or "Beaver". Coming from Silicon Valley where you have people from all over the globe...I was like "are these folks serious"?

Exactly. Well just look at a few of the posts on this thread, of the so called ‘tolerant’ Portlanders: “Too bad it didn’t work for you, now get the F* out!”

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by CanuckInPortland

Though that's just based on United Van Lines rental data(which is just one moving company) and an article from last year. The population of Portland(and Multnomah County) increased over the last year, rentals are still hard to get because of people moving here, and newer places are selling pretty fast.

If the influx has slowed(it could have from the last couple years), it's hard to tell right now. Cities these days have people moving in and out all the time, but overall I haven't seen any other evidence that there's a net loss in population.

I am hoping this rain helps a few people to decide to leave or not move here. Some slowing would be nice, or at least pushing out those that don't like this weather would be a plus. As I always say, I love it when it rains in Portland because it always helps a Californian (or anyone who wants a lot of sunlight) a reason to leave.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by harrishawke

Exactly. Well just look at a few of the posts on this thread, of the so called ‘tolerant’ Portlanders: “Too bad it didn’t work for you, now get the F* out!”

No one is here to hold your hand or help you have a good experience. Portland isn't for everyone, if you don't like it here, then don't live here. You don't hurt our feelings by whining about all the things you don't like about Portland because most of those things are what we like about Portland. So yes, if you don't like it here, then move. Though I am guessing that is the rule anywhere you go in this country, why would you want to live in a place you don't like. Also why would you expect others that do like living in that place to agree or sympathize with you just because you don't like it there?

If you want, I could easily tear apart a number of your points in your OP.

[harrishawke]

So what is all this disdain for Californians? I don’t get it. If anything, they helped grow what little economy Oregon has, and surged your homes market price creating wealth and equity for all natives? That is a good thing and you guys should be grateful.

[Nell Plotts]

There isn't disdain for Californians, it is an old issue as the reason for urban growth boundaries was watching what happened in California back in the day. If there is resentment it is the frustration on the part of local home buyers competing with folks who have a lot more $$ when buying a house.