Rains Nearly Every Day - So Depressing (Portland, Phoenix: amusement park, new house)

[Leisesturm]

Originally Posted by oregon911

How is so cal better than Oregon? They have traffic 24/7, gang crimes, air pollution, higher taxes, higher cost of living, too crowded, you wait in long lines wherever you go...

I don't know... except for the very last item, these are the exact same things people in this forum say about Portland...<shrug>...I'm here for the biking... you couldn't pay me to ride a bicycle 50' in, or around L.A. Go figure, all the amazing places like FL, AZ, CA where you might think it would be great, awesome even, to do the bike thing...no, just no. So I put on the rain gear, and call it Good. Works for me.

[Baking.Bigfoot]

Originally Posted by Thom52

I am glad you like south CA. I wish more people would keep liking S. CA instead of moving up here.
You could not pay me enough to live in S CA, where you don't see a cloud in the sky from June until October.

And I think its a good thing people like different places, so people will spread around.

And there is definitely a different culture in S CA than in Oregon. And it would be nice if people from S CA did not expect Oregon to become S CA when they move up here. People that move up and embrace the difference in weather and culture are a lot happier, as are their neighbors that were already living here.

Enjoy your sunshine! I see your point when you add your perspective.

Well said.
I would move back to Oregon in a Heart beat.
Oregon is my home, but recently had to move to Arizona due to limited housing and costs of houses going up.
I miss the rain and trees. I miss the ocean. Maybe when Oregon catches up in it's housing problem, I will be able to come back.

[psichick]

Originally Posted by Leisesturm

I don't know... except for the very last item, these are the exact same things people in this forum say about Portland...<shrug>...I'm here for the biking... you couldn't pay me to ride a bicycle 50' in, or around L.A. Go figure, all the amazing places like FL, AZ, CA where you might think it would be great, awesome even, to do the bike thing...no, just no. So I put on the rain gear, and call it Good. Works for me.

I had to kind of chuckle at the bike thing. My first thought was, where did you live in SoCal? Most people I know are mountain bike riders or weekend cyclists through Newport Beach. Tons of cyclists. But you're right, very few people use a bike for actual transportation.

[JonathanLB]

Originally Posted by jamesblazen

Very few people want to move from So Cal to Oregon. Those who do, do it for money reasons. Most regret it but moving out of So Cal is a one way street. Too expensive to move back. There is a reason why So Cal is expensive. It's better.

Exactly. I moved back from Los Angeles to Portland for a girl, though, and I've been here for 5.5 years since then. We both hate it here and can't wait to move, but her family is here. Next stop will be Las Vegas for us, much cheaper, rarely ever anything but sunny, and no state income tax. Sadly you couldn't pay me enough to move back to Los Angeles even though I'm in the film industry. The housing prices are ludicrously high unless you quite literally have $20 million. I wouldn't be happy with a home under $2 million there. The high property taxes and even higher income taxes than Oregon make it impossible for me to want to call that home long term. I'd certainly love to pick up a small condo in Burbank for work purposes one day, but not actually be a resident.

That being said, why you'd suffer through Oregon's crazy income taxes and high housing costs is beyond me. For $500,000 in most cities of the U.S. you'd a pretty awesome home. In Oregon you get something very mediocre. Why?! It's an awful place to live! It should be cheaper than average here, not way, way more than average. Good for me when I go to sell my house, I guess, but I feel like I should be living like a king for the money I have in Oregon. One of the least desirable places I can think to call home, unless your only goal in life is to breed and send your kids to "a good school" and do absolutely nothing all day. Because that's what there is to do here. Nothing.

[oregon911]

Originally Posted by JonathanLB

That being said, why you'd suffer through Oregon's crazy income taxes and high housing costs is beyond me. For $500,000 in most cities of the U.S. you'd a pretty awesome home. In Oregon you get something very mediocre. Why?! It's an awful place to live! It should be cheaper than average here, not way, way more than average. Good for me when I go to sell my house, I guess, but I feel like I should be living like a king for the money I have in Oregon. One of the least desirable places I can think to call home, unless your only goal in life is to breed and send your kids to "a good school" and do absolutely nothing all day. Because that's what there is to do here. Nothing.

Sorry that you couldn't make it here. Not everyone does (it takes skills and brains that not everyone has). Good luck to you in the godforsaken desert. I'm sure it's more affordable for people like you.

[decayed]

Actually sunshine makes a lot of people depressed, me included, and it's clinically documented. I am living in SoCal and everyday I have to face the awfulness of unbridled sunshine. It rains less than 20 days per year here and for those few days it rained people would make it an "event" and "headline news".
I prefer the constant cloudiness and overcast weather. Good weather is cloudy drizzling weather mixed with the occasional tropical storms. Sunny weather is downright suicidal and cancerous.

[DKM]

I found it ironic that people move to Oregon for the "outdoor" lifestyle. I guess some people are just naturally hot all the time? Its cold 8 months a year here outside. And usually wet during those months. Who's biking to work here since Halloween? Almost nobody

[goolsbyjazz]

Originally Posted by Baking.Bigfoot

Well said.
I would move back to Oregon in a Heart beat.
Oregon is my home, but recently had to move to Arizona due to limited housing and costs of houses going up.
I miss the rain and trees. I miss the ocean. Maybe when Oregon catches up in it's housing problem, I will be able to come back.

I was curious if anyone from Oregon had moved to Arizona? I wanted to get their thoughts because it sounds like they are polar opposites. Arizona is sunshine just about every day whereas I hear Portland is not. Is there any place in Oregon where the weather is more balanced?

[karlsch]

Originally Posted by goolsbyjazz

I was curious if anyone from Oregon had moved to Arizona? I wanted to get their thoughts because it sounds like they are polar opposites. Arizona is sunshine just about every day whereas I hear Portland is not. ............

Click on these 2 links:

Some say that this winter has been the worst ever. What say you?

Some say that this winter has been the worst ever. What say you?

[smpliving]

My daughter moved to Portland from the Midwest 4 years ago and has no plans to leave. She hikes and rides her bike year round regardless of weather, and loves the fog in the mountains. When you're use to below 0-degree weather, the rain and snow is a piece of cake.