Portland??? (neighborhoods, living, prices)

[roneb]

DougD, listen to GB1 as he is talking the most sense. Come on posters, we're falling back into the same old defensiveness again. Doug's observations were for the most part quite valid! Yes, even compared to San Fran and especially Seattle, we are, in our own way, WEIRD! Maybe it's just because both cities, because they are larger, have mcuh larger traditional business elements in their demographics. And Nell P, shame on you for comparing inches of ave rainfall in Portland and Dallas. Anyone remotely familiar with geography and climate knows it's a totally different situation. In Dallas you get thunderstorms and downpours that can drop several inches in a matter of hours. The rest of the time it is quite dry. Portland rain is generally light (it's rare when we even get .75 inches in 24 hours). As a result, our skies are gray and over cast FAR MORE than in Dallas. Listen to the people who complain. They talk about the lack of sunshine, NOT the quantity of rain. And EnricoV, almost all adults know what pot smells like. It's pretty distictive and really not hard to figure out when someone is or has been smoking it. DougD came in and made some observations you guys didn't like and, he's right, you treated him as if he must be some conservative Texan hick. Sorry, Doug; you've just experienced Portland's collective chip on the shoulder first hand!

[Tesaje]

Originally Posted by GB1

...and appeared to be Not Quite There in some way.

He was carrying...a dolly. Not a construction dolly, but a little girl's rag doll. It looked as battered and worn as he was, but he carried it with the utmost solicitiousness and love.

And people were crossing the street when they saw him, averting their eyes as they hurried past, doing their best to pretend this extremely weird (but harmless) fellow wasn't standing there on the sidewalk.

I don't know, but I've lived in and traveled all over this country and I don't think this reaction is unique to Portland. It is a human reaction to avoid potential trouble and tho this guy may well have been weird but harmless, you just don't know. People anywhere tend to avoid anyone who acts odd on the street just about anywhere. It takes a conscience action to do otherwise.

[cjski21]

I for one, am okay with liberal attitudes. I do live in Las Vegas after all. The rain would be a nice change of pace from the dry dust. And the wierd would be no adjustment, again reference Las Vegas. It is nice to see the posters all support their ideas and opinions with facts and personal experience. It seems as other forums here just want to slam people and call each other names for disagreeing with each other.

[roneb]

Originally Posted by cjski21

I for one, am okay with liberal attitudes. I do live in Las Vegas after all. The rain would be a nice change of pace from the dry dust. And the wierd would be no adjustment, again reference Las Vegas. It is nice to see the posters all support their ideas and opinions with facts and personal experience. It seems as other forums here just want to slam people and call each other names for disagreeing with each other.

Stick around and you'll probably see plenty of that here too!

[EnricoV]

Originally Posted by roneb

And EnricoV, almost all adults know what pot smells like. It's pretty distictive and really not hard to figure out when someone is or has been smoking it. DougD came in and made some observations you guys didn't like and, he's right, you treated him as if he must be some conservative Texan hick. Sorry, Doug; you've just experienced Portland's collective chip on the shoulder first hand!

Excuse me? He said he was in a car! Not walking near them. I'm supposed to assume he can smell it from inside a car? Emanating from a herd of unwashed youths?

[EnricoV]

Originally Posted by DougD

I was there last week. I got there Sunday and when I left Friday, the sun came out. It was either raining or misting approx 75% of the time. The other 25% of the time, it was gray and cloudy.

Intereseting. Again, like I said. I remembered only one rainy day recently, and that proved true I looked it up, which site records weather about once an hour, sometimes more often.

20th. It rained once, at about 7 pm for a total of .007"

21st. It rained at 8 am, and about noon, for a total of .20"

22nd. It rained quite a bit today, mostly from midnight to 8 am, about 5-6, and after 9pm for a total of .57"

23rd. It rained in the evening after 5, for a total of .07"

24th. It rained a few times before 6 am, and again at about 1:30 pm, for a total of .07"

25th. No rain at all.

That's not even an inch of rain total. And it's certainly not for 75% of the time. Just a hair more than Dallas had for the same period. Oh, and it was overcast in Dallas the entire time. I think one afternoone was "sunny." Most interestingly (for me, anyway) was the day in Dallas where most of the afternoon was marked with a "light drizzle" but no measurable rain. The heat dries it up?

[DougD]

Originally Posted by EnricoV

(obsessive weather report clipped)...That's not even an inch of rain total. And it's certainly not for 75% of the time. Just a hair more than Dallas had for the same period. Oh, and it was overcast in Dallas the entire time. I think one afternoone was "sunny." Most interestingly (for me, anyway) was the day in Dallas where most of the afternoon was marked with a "light drizzle" but no measurable rain. The heat dries it up?

Just checked in to see if there's been any added posts. All that commentary I offered and all of those observations I described and the only thing you have to offer is a multi-post weather fixation? Dude.....let it go.

[roneb]

Originally Posted by EnricoV

Intereseting. Again, like I said. I remembered only one rainy day recently, and that proved true I looked it up, which site records weather about once an hour, sometimes more often.

20th. It rained once, at about 7 pm for a total of .007"

21st. It rained at 8 am, and about noon, for a total of .20"

22nd. It rained quite a bit today, mostly from midnight to 8 am, about 5-6, and after 9pm for a total of .57"

23rd. It rained in the evening after 5, for a total of .07"

24th. It rained a few times before 6 am, and again at about 1:30 pm, for a total of .07"

25th. No rain at all.

That's not even an inch of rain total. And it's certainly not for 75% of the time. Just a hair more than Dallas had for the same period. Oh, and it was overcast in Dallas the entire time. I think one afternoone was "sunny." Most interestingly (for me, anyway) was the day in Dallas where most of the afternoon was marked with a "light drizzle" but no measurable rain. The heat dries it up?

Thank you EnricoV for proving the point I was trying to make in responding to Nell P. It hardly ever rains hard in Portland, so to get our 35 inches annually it has to rain much more frequently than the vast majority of other places. And please note that the mist and light drizzle Doug referred to frequently does not end up in records because it is "below measurable amounts." It does not mean it was it was dry just because it's not in the records. I teach PE and am outside everyday. It wasn't as dry as you'd like to lead people to believe.

[suncat]

This isn't some "Texan hating Portland" thing. Many of the people from Oregon and Washington feel that Portland is out of touch with the rest of Oregon; which is exactly how many Texans feel about Austin.

Doug, I think your observations are spot on. I wish everyone did a similar analysis when choosing a new city.

[suncat]

Originally Posted by Tesaje

I don't know, but I've lived in and traveled all over this country and I don't think this reaction is unique to Portland. It is a human reaction to avoid potential trouble and tho this guy may well have been weird but harmless, you just don't know. People anywhere tend to avoid anyone who acts odd on the street just about anywhere. It takes a conscience action to do otherwise.

I think his point was that the man with the dolly was being treated as too weird, by people who proudly call themselves weird. You don't see the irony in that?