Portland???

[checar]

Nobody said "solid gray all the time" for Pete's sake, but it IS fair to characterize Fall through Spring as mostly gray (meaning more than half of the time, maybe even 75% of the time). Look it up: Mean Number of Clear Days - Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC)
Average Number of Cloudy Days - Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC)
Northwestern Oregon's Climate- an Overview

[Tesaje]

Originally Posted by checar

Nobody said "solid gray all the time" for Pete's sake, but it IS fair to characterize Fall through Spring as mostly gray (meaning more than half of the time, maybe even 75% of the time). Look it up: Mean Number of Clear Days - Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC)
Average Number of Cloudy Days - Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC)
Northwestern Oregon's Climate- an Overview

Well, yes, some do say it is solid rain and gray for 9 months and that the sun never comes out. Maybe they mean it as hyperbole, or maybe they just dislike the area and its weather so much, that's all they see. Others are more balanced. My take is that if someone is looking for lots of sunshine, then the Pac NW west of the Cascades is probably not for them. But if, say the weather in Ohio is ok with them, then it could be a good fit. It all depends on what you like and dislike. Ain't it great we aren't all looking for the same thing? (the sunshine data say in the depths of winter, there's 30% of the available sunshine.)

[EnricoV]

So apparently we can conclude it's cloudy 70% of the time in the winter. Whether the clouds are grey or white, isn't stated, hm?

[checar]

Some people can't accept facts. You know as well as I do that it's gray here A LOT. I'm out.

[GB1]

Ah, bickering over the most insignificant matters, down to the last spiritual decimal point, backed up with Facts! and Figures! and Studies! and Maps! and Proofs! and Statistics!.

Ah, Portland.

[awilbur7]

Originally Posted by checar

Nobody said "solid gray all the time" for Pete's sake, but it IS fair to characterize Fall through Spring as mostly gray (meaning more than half of the time, maybe even 75% of the time). Look it up: Mean Number of Clear Days - Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC)
Average Number of Cloudy Days - Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC)
Northwestern Oregon's Climate- an Overview

Finally, someone gets it! Oregonians have a hard time accepting reality. 68 days of sun out of the ENTIRE YEAR is pretty depressing. But, even with the proof in black and white, they will still deny it.

[awilbur7]

Originally Posted by Tesaje

Well, yes, some do say it is solid rain and gray for 9 months and that the sun never comes out. Maybe they mean it as hyperbole, or maybe they just dislike the area and its weather so much, that's all they see. Others are more balanced. My take is that if someone is looking for lots of sunshine, then the Pac NW west of the Cascades is probably not for them. But if, say the weather in Ohio is ok with them, then it could be a good fit. It all depends on what you like and dislike. Ain't it great we aren't all looking for the same thing? (the sunshine data say in the depths of winter, there's 30% of the available sunshine.)

You STILL don't get it! It's not just that "some say" it is rainy and gloomy nine months out of the year, It's a fact. Whether or not Oregonians admit it, it's a fact. People probably wouldn't dislike the weather so much if it didn't suck. Oregonians must like to live in a fog; I guess that explains there extremely poor driving skills!

[awilbur7]

Originally Posted by roneb

DougD, listen to GB1 as he is talking the most sense. Come on posters, we're falling back into the same old defensiveness again. Doug's observations were for the most part quite valid! Yes, even compared to San Fran and especially Seattle, we are, in our own way, WEIRD! Maybe it's just because both cities, because they are larger, have mcuh larger traditional business elements in their demographics. And Nell P, shame on you for comparing inches of ave rainfall in Portland and Dallas. Anyone remotely familiar with geography and climate knows it's a totally different situation. In Dallas you get thunderstorms and downpours that can drop several inches in a matter of hours. The rest of the time it is quite dry. Portland rain is generally light (it's rare when we even get .75 inches in 24 hours). As a result, our skies are gray and over cast FAR MORE than in Dallas. Listen to the people who complain. They talk about the lack of sunshine, NOT the quantity of rain. And EnricoV, almost all adults know what pot smells like. It's pretty distictive and really not hard to figure out when someone is or has been smoking it. DougD came in and made some observations you guys didn't like and, he's right, you treated him as if he must be some conservative Texan hick. Sorry, Doug; you've just experienced Portland's collective chip on the shoulder first hand!

BRAVO! You hit the nail right on the head!!

[awilbur7]

Originally Posted by EnricoV

Intereseting. Again, like I said. I remembered only one rainy day recently, and that proved true I looked it up, which site records weather about once an hour, sometimes more often.

20th. It rained once, at about 7 pm for a total of .007"

21st. It rained at 8 am, and about noon, for a total of .20"

22nd. It rained quite a bit today, mostly from midnight to 8 am, about 5-6, and after 9pm for a total of .57"

23rd. It rained in the evening after 5, for a total of .07"

24th. It rained a few times before 6 am, and again at about 1:30 pm, for a total of .07"

25th. No rain at all.

That's not even an inch of rain total. And it's certainly not for 75% of the time. Just a hair more than Dallas had for the same period. Oh, and it was overcast in Dallas the entire time. I think one afternoone was "sunny." Most interestingly (for me, anyway) was the day in Dallas where most of the afternoon was marked with a "light drizzle" but no measurable rain. The heat dries it up?

Dude, there is a big difference. Dallas actually does see sunshine for more than 15 minutes at a time. It doesn't matter "how many inches of rainfall" there was, the point is that it is grey and miserable in Oregon most of the time. And, I see you failed to mention the temps, COLD AS HELL! I have lived in Oregon for 5 yrs and it certainly is grey and miserable about 8-9 mos. out of the year. Pull yourself out of denial, you can't change the facts.

[EnricoV]

Well, it didn't that week. And "grey and miserable" is an opinion, not a fact. And it's not, in my opinion, "grey and miserable most of the time." That's just another exaggeration. Dude.