Is it really true that Oregonians hate Californians? (Portland: living, stadium)

[PSP2PDX]

psichick, you sound like a very "together" person that made a very intelligent observation. I couldn't agree with you more. Anyone that would key a car because it had California plates has a screw loose somewhere and their actions reflect issues not related to geography. There are nut cases in California and nut cases in Oregon and thank God the majority of people wouldn't think of doing something like that. I have a home in Portland and a home in Palm Springs and split my time between the two cities for business reasons. I had my car in Palm Springs with CA vanity plates keyed a few years ago and it was just sitting in a parking lot doing nothing! I have had 3 friends move recently from SoCal to PDX with quote, unquote "luxury" cars all with CA plates and have had NO problems.

Pack the bags, move north, and have fun and a great life!

[Olivenhain]

Originally Posted by adesignforlife

Basically, any place where Californians migrate in droves will not like Californians. Californians notoriously drive up the housing prices and the overall cost of living. Also, in the PNW, we're typically very protective of our way of life. The stereotypical Californian doesn't fit in with that at all.

It's mostly out of experience that we dislike Californians. Whether it be their driving or something else. Members of my family grew up in Mukilteo, WA. Over the years, we've watched as it went to a nice little hidden gem with a small-town feel to "one of the most affluent suburbs of Seattle". It went from affordable and modest homes to multi-million dollar mansions covering the hills. Most of that is due to the Northern migration of Californians who can no longer afford California or dislike certain aspects of it but still want to hold on to their Pacific beaches and their West Coast feel.

Just don't advertise you're from California and it should be all right. Although you may notice a cringe on people's faces when you tell them where you're from.

Wow, pretty small-minded post... Who sold those houses that the evil Californians bought? Perhaps your friends and family? Ridiculous posts like yours only perpetuate the stereotyping you employ. I think if you did any actual research, you would find that most of the residents of Mukilteo are NOT relocated Californians. Keep your narrow-minded PNW "lifestyle", and enjoy your home-grown traffic, rain & meth. I'm glad my friends in Woodinville & Edmonds aren't as bitter as you are.

[EnricoV]

Originally Posted by Olivenhain

Wow, pretty small-minded post... Who sold those houses that the evil Californians bought? Perhaps your friends and family? Ridiculous posts like yours only perpetuate the stereotyping you employ. I think if you did any actual research, you would find that most of the residents of Mukilteo are NOT relocated Californians. Keep your narrow-minded PNW "lifestyle", and enjoy your home-grown traffic, rain & meth. I'm glad my friends in Woodinville & Edmonds aren't as bitter as you are.

Pot? Meet kettle. Some pretty small-minded attitude generalizing PNW people in response to just one person's opinion.

[PNW-type-gal]

You can go to the Washington, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas forums and find threads about "<insert state> locals hate Californians" - it's more to do with a perceived influx than anything else. There are a LOT of Californians moving out of state (I forget how many years that migration has been net negative now), compared to the much smaller numbers of people from other states who move, so Californians take the heat.

It's not particularly reasonable, but it's pretty widespread.

[Vetlover]

And don't forget Idaho is starting to hate Californians also.
Oregon has hated them for many many years. They ruined Sun River & the Bend area.

[PNW-type-gal]

Originally Posted by Vetlover

And don't forget Idaho is starting to hate Californians also.
Oregon has hated them for many many years. They ruined Sun River & the Bend area.

Sun River was meant to be a vacation spot. There are fewer permanent residences than rentals (or that was true maybe 7 years ago). Think of it as ruined by design.... (Unless you mean Sun Valley, in Idaho.)

And you'll find people in Bend who complain as much about people from the Willamette Valley, too. The general larger place --> smaller place migration, while bringing "larger place" values and standards is what causes the most noise from "natives."

[RogCBrand]

As a lifelong Oregonian, I've seen a massive influx of Californians all my life- which makes sense as we border that state. I've had many friends, classmates and coworkers who were former Californians and the thing that really irritated me with them is so many were always complaining about the weather during the 8 or so months when it's usually gray and rainy. But that rain is what makes the state beautiful, covers the land in lush forest, with all the rivers, lakes and snow in the mountains. It's what helps keep the air clean. And best of all, we have seasons. I love the stormy weather, and actually get tired of August/September when it can be weeks of the same stifling hot, changeless weather.

So, I think that Californians who move here need to accept that it rains a lot here. But that's what makes a nice, mild, sunny day in Spring or Fall, or a crisp, cold sunny day in Winter so wonderful and appreciated. If they are looking to move to another California, just not with the same crowding, crime, pollution and other problems, then Oregon is not the place for them- but even if that place they are looking for existed, then 20 million Californians would move there and they'd just have what they ran away from!

[Vetlover]

No I mean SUN RIVER, Oregon. They have ruined it I know my family has a home there and you can't do jack $hit there cause of some California jerk getting on the housing board and bring the Ca. housing laws there.

Over here in Idaho, when some one from California moves here all they do is ***** & complain about the low wages. Hey if you don't like the low wages you can go back to Ca.

[nwsterner]

No, no, no. I've heard this a million times myself. My family has been here for 10 years now from CA and about half the people I meet are also from California! It took a few years for locals to warm up, it seems this way in Salem area, you're just sort of ignored, they smile and wave and thats about it, they already have all the friends they care to have. People they've grown up with and have known all there lives. Don't act like you know more and have seen more then us, in otherwords don't be condescending towards Oregonians, alot of Californians are.

[Todd.LA]

As an Oregonian who moved to California, I can say with much certainty that Californians do not hate Oregonians. In fact they generally think well of Oregon and think it's a beautiful place.

I do understand the frustrations about Californians selling their houses in CA and moving north driving up real estate prices. But the more "cultural" complaints about Californians seem silly and parochial.

It's not like Oregon in the 1960's and 1970's was some sort of paradise. It was an undiversified economy based on cutting down as many trees as you could: not exactly sustainable. As more people from out of state moved into Oregon, the state surely did change, but in my view it was mostly for the better. For example, that evil California company Intel moved in and brought tons of jobs (recent cuts not withstanding).