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Looks like we just missed it. We were down for a son's graduation and flew out of Portland Sunday morning. We saw several accidents in Seattle though before we flew out of there.
Where's the salt???? Don't get me wrong I love snow, but I especially love it in metro areas that know how to take care of the roads when it snows. I've lived in Massachusetts and Wisconsin and in both places you would never, and I mean EVER, see ice sitting on major roads a few hours, much less a two days like yesterday(Tuesday), after a snowfall. This is because they use salt. Plowing and sand can only go so far. Now I know many will say, oh but it's bad for the environment, but people die in accidents because of ice on the road - I'm actually pretty "green" in most ways but I believe an exception should be made here. Anybody else a little "steamed" about this?
Where's the salt???? Don't get me wrong I love snow, but I especially love it in metro areas that know how to take care of the roads when it snows. I've lived in Massachusetts and Wisconsin and in both places you would never, and I mean EVER, see ice sitting on major roads a few hours, much less a two days like yesterday(Tuesday), after a snowfall. This is because they use salt. Plowing and sand can only go so far. Now I know many will say, oh but it's bad for the environment, but people die in accidents because of ice on the road - I'm actually pretty "green" in most ways but I believe an exception should be made here. Anybody else a little "steamed" about this?
But that's why everyone has got chains! (do they even work on ice?) I'm not complaining about the salt though as it eats out your car with rust, but it's probably pointless for me anyway. 220k miles, mostly in the northeast, plus I drove on the Bonneville Salt Flats @ 100mph (stupid yes, but...). My vehicle is screwed, but I can't afford another one. If a few people need to bite it so we can have more cars form the 1970's + 80's on pdx-roadways, so be it. At least half of them probably earned it via darwinism.
Perspective here....salt over time will do damage to a vehicle, yes. Salt for a week once a year will most definitely do negligible damage. My current car has two Mass winters under its belt and my old car had three in Wisconsin. Neither had problems with salt damage and that's after being exposed to it frequently over those winters. I fortunately have the option to stay home if I feel the roads are dangerous and I do. Many however have to drive to jobs they cannot afford to lose and for emergencies - to say the lives lost are worth it to save some cars makes no sense to me.
Saw this cuuute Youtube video from the folks up at the Oregon Zoo of the animals enjoying the snow. The new baby elephant, at the end of the video, is so darling!
But gotta second the NO SALT!! It's why so many older cars in the midwest are so rusted out. You don't see that here. I must have missed the news reports of lives lost by people commuting to work in a snowstorm. Public transportation is the way to go, if you have to.
Besides. The issue isn't what they put on the roads. The issue is, they have neither the manpower nor the equipment to blanket all the city roads. It makes no sense to spend the money it would take upfront, on the off-chance it will snow one year. Just because that's the way they did it in Massachusetts, doesn't mean it's practical here. New residents should probably to get over the "that's the way they did it" wherever. It's one of those things that does tend to irritate old residents.
Saw this cuuute Youtube video from the folks up at the Oregon Zoo of the animals enjoying the snow. The new baby elephant, at the end of the video, is so darling!
My kids (5 and 7) said "thank you for the video link" :-)
Where's the salt???? Don't get me wrong I love snow, but I especially love it in metro areas that know how to take care of the roads when it snows. I've lived in Massachusetts and Wisconsin and in both places you would never, and I mean EVER, see ice sitting on major roads a few hours, much less a two days like yesterday(Tuesday), after a snowfall. This is because they use salt. Plowing and sand can only go so far. Now I know many will say, oh but it's bad for the environment, but people die in accidents because of ice on the road - I'm actually pretty "green" in most ways but I believe an exception should be made here. Anybody else a little "steamed" about this?
I agree. Its not just the roads, its the sidewalks downtown, the Pearl basically all over. Heavy business areas with people walking and there is nothing put down to take care of the ice. Im a native of Massachusetts so I have seen enough snow and ice in my life. I know you have to respect winter weather, it can hurt or claim a life in a moment. I am sorry that the environment or whatever the reason is here, is more important than a human life. I mean one doesn't want to say to much when they are not from the place but. It doesn't take much sense to figure out, the approach to winter here is rather disturbing and downright dangerous. When I see the amount of days the schools and business close for this little mess, its amazing to me. Properly treat the roads and sidewalks and get on with life instead of round the clock weather bulletins for a few snow flakes.
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