How much of portland is brain drain from other states? (real estate, house)

[rickers]

Originally Posted by Anoia

How common are people like me?

Ther is no body just like you. If you are a good nice respectfull and freindly person You will do fine (if you don't drain the system).

I wish you the best of luck. One thing that I don't quite get is the title of your post. "How much of Portland is a brain drain from other states"
What the heck does that mean ?

[Nell Plotts]

Lots of bright, well educated, people move to Oregon. I love that because that talent builds our economy. Yes, there are some here - as there is everywhere, who don't relish competiting with those folks for employment/promotion. I understand that disappointment is painful but they need to be better prepared so that they are the best candidate the next time.

One of the reasons why the economy of the Silicon Valley is so strong is that it attracts brains and talent world wide.

[PNW-type-gal]

Originally Posted by Nell Plotts

Lots of bright, well educated, people move to Oregon. I love that because that talent builds our economy. Yes, there are some here - as there is everywhere, who don't relish competiting with those folks for employment/promotion. I understand that disappointment is painful but they need to be better prepared so that they are the best candidate the next time.

One of the reasons why the economy of the Silicon Valley is so strong is that it attracts brains and talent world wide.

28 years ago, when the spouse and I moved to Portland to work for Tektronix, it had 24,000 employees. After years of spin-offs, downsizing and layoffs, it's now owned by Danaher and employs somewhere around 4,000. Silicon Forest had its heyday in the 80s and 90s (the latter decade propped up only by the semiconductor industry) and has been shrinking every since.

But that's pretty much true of all high-tech areas and the push to off-shore engineering. One of the big engineering magazines (EETimes) just had a survey of engineers and more than half of them said that they wouldn't recommend engineering majors to new students - no money (comparatively) and no respect, from management, Wall Street or the general public.

[meltinjohn]

Originally Posted by subsound

There is a good number of people like you, but in many different situations. I would wait for a bit till the economic dump plays out a bit more before blindly moving out...it seems like things are looking up but might still be a rough road. There are many who come out and fail, not being able to find work and not being able to afford a home but too stubborn to move back home they end up on the streets.

No one I know really cares about transplants, except to blame the vague Californian, unless they want to know about where you are from due to personal interest or to bust chops.

Especially if shes coming from MA, I would say stay put there since the high COL often means they can survive things quicker. Im from MA so I know.

[meltinjohn]

Originally Posted by Nell Plotts

Lots of bright, well educated, people move to Oregon. I love that because that talent builds our economy. Yes, there are some here - as there is everywhere, who don't relish competiting with those folks for employment/promotion. I understand that disappointment is painful but they need to be better prepared so that they are the best candidate the next time.

One of the reasons why the economy of the Silicon Valley is so strong is that it attracts brains and talent world wide.

The only problem is is if these highly educated people move to Portland and support anything that makes the nation or the homestate of Oregon poorer like heavy marxist supporters. Many of them are intelligent but they support an ideology that makes everyone else poor so thats my issue with some highly educated people moving that do the wrong things with their booksmart education.

[Anoia]

Originally Posted by rickers

I wish you the best of luck. One thing that I don't quite get is the title of your post. "How much of Portland is a brain drain from other states"
What the heck does that mean ?

Brain Drain is what happens when people that have grown up with the benefits of their state, education mostly, leave as soon as they're done recieving those benefits because there is no opportunity for them. They use up the state's resources and then leave so they can't pay their "debt" back in taxes. Because it's mostly bright educated people that leave the state is left with an unskilled work force. Therefore, the state is suffering from "brain drain."

Originally Posted by meltinjohn

The only problem is is if these highly educated people move to Portland and support anything that makes the nation or the homestate of Oregon poorer like heavy marxist supporters. Many of them are intelligent but they support an ideology that makes everyone else poor so thats my issue with some highly educated people moving that do the wrong things with their booksmart education.

*Snort.*I think that's mostly college students. Oregon doesn't even have a communist party, does it? Or are you talking about democrats and those that support socialized medicine? I would think they're the only ones that would pose a risk to the state's wealth.

Originally Posted by meltinjohn

Especially if shes coming from MA, I would say stay put there since the high COL often means they can survive things quicker. Im from MA so I know.

Noooo. Maine. According to this site, my COL is 90. And the median income is wrong, most people make 25K. :O Less than 3 quarters of people here graduate high school, and about 10% of people have college degrees. No way I'm staying here. Portland looks like disneyland in comparison. We literally have ten times the ratio of sex offenders here. Just look at the stats if you really want to. http://www.city-data.com/city/Lewiston-Maine.html

[Uhuh]

I started out in Corvallis Oregon. My G/F was going to school out there. We kinda felt Portland was our refuge. Corvallis was a lovely little town. But the younger people where pretty judgmental. It was very hard to go anywhere in Corvallis without being called a homophobic name, or to be stared at. When we went out to Portland and Eugene, the people seemed a lot more friendly. People tend to keep to them self in Portland so don't think a welcoming committee will come out when you arrive. But also don't think you will be hazed. Work does seem to be hard to find depending on what you are into. I found a job in Corvallis at a office max store. There are some odd jobs that are not too desirable that if desperate enough you can pick up. But like others have said already. Come out here and check it out for your self. You may hate the place, or love it.

[meltinjohn]

Originally Posted by Anoia

Brain Drain is what happens when people that have grown up with the benefits of their state, education mostly, leave as soon as they're done recieving those benefits because there is no opportunity for them. They use up the state's resources and then leave so they can't pay their "debt" back in taxes. Because it's mostly bright educated people that leave the state is left with an unskilled work force. Therefore, the state is suffering from "brain drain."

*Snort.*I think that's mostly college students. Oregon doesn't even have a communist party, does it? Or are you talking about democrats and those that support socialized medicine? I would think they're the only ones that would pose a risk to the state's wealth.

Noooo. Maine. According to this site, my COL is 90. And the median income is wrong, most people make 25K. :O Less than 3 quarters of people here graduate high school, and about 10% of people have college degrees. No way I'm staying here. Portland looks like disneyland in comparison. We literally have ten times the ratio of sex offenders here. Just look at the stats if you really want to. http://www.city-data.com/city/Lewiston-Maine.html

Oh holy **** MAINE.
I been through Maine and was not impressed with Portland ME really + the surrounding areas seemed terrible. Maine is certainly not my cup of tea and Portland/area certainly looks like disney world next to that so I can fully agree.
Anyways Oregon as a state I doubt is communist. In Portland, most I met were not commie types but then again, I went to the brewpubs not so much the coffee houses. I should have tho.

[Anoia]

Originally Posted by meltinjohn

Oh holy **** MAINE.
I been through Maine and was not impressed with Portland ME really + the surrounding areas seemed terrible. Maine is certainly not my cup of tea and Portland/area certainly looks like disney world next to that so I can fully agree.
Anyways Oregon as a state I doubt is communist. In Portland, most I met were not commie types but then again, I went to the brewpubs not so much the coffee houses. I should have tho.

I KNOW. We are literally the oldest state in the country, with a median age of 50. How the hell are college graduates supposed to compete with people who've been working for 30 years? But since EVERYBODY is going west/southwest there aren't any jobs there, either. But I'd rather be unemployed with a bunch of 20-somethings than old farts.And haha, communists? I'm trying to get into Hampshire College, where the untimate frisbee team is called the Red Scare. I'm a bit more moderate myself, just your average pinko.
Also, you know I really hate Portland because it was named after Portland Maine, our biggest city? But yours got so much bigger! So whenever I hear that "Radiohead are coming to Portland" I get all excited before realizing that it's that other Portland.

[Minervah]

Originally Posted by Anoia

I KNOW. We are literally the oldest state in the country, with a median age of 50. How the hell are college graduates supposed to compete with people who've been working for 30 years? But since EVERYBODY is going west/southwest there aren't any jobs there, either. But I'd rather be unemployed with a bunch of 20-somethings than old farts.And haha, communists? I'm trying to get into Hampshire College, where the untimate frisbee team is called the Red Scare. I'm a bit more moderate myself, just your average pinko.
Also, you know I really hate Portland because it was named after Portland Maine, our biggest city? But yours got so much bigger! So whenever I hear that "Radiohead are coming to Portland" I get all excited before realizing that it's that other Portland.

Speaking as one of those "old farts" trust me, I see older people being squeezed out of their "30 year" jobs every day. And when an Oldie competes for a new job with a young'un it's the whipper-snapper who gets the job most of the time. That's no different here than anywhere esle.