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Old 07-04-2009, 11:12 PM
 
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On a recent Portland trip I only witnessed 3 or 4 cars with ghetto rims and only heard one stupid boom car. And the bass wasn't half as loud as the garbage forced on people throughout the Sacramento area. I also only saw/heard one or two Harleys with loud pipes. Were these weekday observations a fluke?

I mostly hung out in a rectangle bounded by Gladstone St., 50th Ave. and Burnside St., all the way through downtown. I checked out MLK Blvd. and it seemed better than your typical city's MLK. I did see some questionable types but they were mostly homeless. It was good to see so many people on bikes; a culture of conservation and fitness.

But two days wasn't enough to get an angle on the whole city. In the back of my mind I knew I'd eventually hear boom, boOM, BOOM coming from dreg cars somewhere in Multnomah County. Correct assumption?

Can someone advise on neighborhoods to avoid if one expects peace and quiet by default vs. something you have to haggle over with property managers and police? I would like to know this about the more affordable areas, as I am not a yuppie ($35-40k recent earnings).

I read that when you get into the 80+ avenues east of the city, or out toward Gresham you start seeing more attitudes and noise. But I drove through Gresham and it seemed calm and nicely rural (hard to know from a road glimpse). What about the southeast pocket bounded by 205, 224 and the river?

Thanks for any honest, non-PC info.


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Old 07-05-2009, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Just Outside of Chicagoland
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First off Portland doesnt have many ghettos. And even if you hear cars with subs in them it doesnt mean your in a bad nieghborhood. For instance I live in a white suburb and theres a lot of white kids who are harmless and have subs.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:43 AM
 
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Just going on what I hear on the news Gresham and surrounding areas have some issues. I do find that the beautiful greenery can mask a lot. The neighborhood I'm in now is pretty good, but it's not nearly as good as I thought it was when I chose it. All I could see were beautiful trees and plants after coming from a land of concrete. If you make $40K a year you can afford an apartment anywhere in the city - it's really up to you. I'd say look for what type of neighborhood you want rather than what you don't want. It'll save you time and you might avoid that problem of ending up with what you were trying to avoid...I speak from experience on that one
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:24 AM
 
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I think if you get a place in close in Southwest or Southeast Portland you'll find what you are looking for. Hawthorne, Woodstock, Sellwood, Burlington, Multnomah Village, Hillsdale would be places to check out.
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:31 AM
 
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Start with this map and move it right, left and down to see some close-in neighborhoods. Then google crime maps for some stats on the different areas.

map portland oregon - Google Maps

This is a newsletter for the Hillsdale area so you can get a feel for it. There may be similar pubs for other areas but I don know what they're called.

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Old 07-05-2009, 10:59 AM
 
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First off Portland doesnt have many ghettos. And even if you hear cars with subs in them it doesnt mean your in a bad nieghborhood. For instance I live in a white suburb and theres a lot of white kids who are harmless and have subs.
There is nothing "harmless" about noise pollution when it invades your private living space. Lots of these "kids" think they're innocent but they're belligerent little punks when you ask them to turn it down. Anyone who broadcasts their bass into living quarters is a plague on society. It's not music, it's an ego trip, often associated with drugs and property crime.

If you can tell me where these "kids" hang out you'll be helping a lot.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:01 AM
 
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Just going on what I hear on the news Gresham and surrounding areas have some issues. I do find that the beautiful greenery can mask a lot. The neighborhood I'm in now is pretty good, but it's not nearly as good as I thought it was when I chose it. All I could see were beautiful trees and plants after coming from a land of concrete. If you make $40K a year you can afford an apartment anywhere in the city - it's really up to you. I'd say look for what type of neighborhood you want rather than what you don't want. It'll save you time and you might avoid that problem of ending up with what you were trying to avoid...I speak from experience on that one
Well, I was hoping for specifics. I can't stay there long enough to know what's really good before moving. A map delineating known BAD areas would be very useful.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:12 AM
 
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Start with this map and move it right, left and down to see some close-in neighborhoods. Then google crime maps for some stats on the different areas.

map portland oregon - Google Maps

This is a newsletter for the Hillsdale area so you can get a feel for it. There may be similar pubs for other areas but I don know what they're called.

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Good tip - crime maps - though property crimes sometimes occur in nicer areas (more bling for the thugs to steal).
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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The reason I say think of what you want first is because it's not like there's only one good area in town...for example

- if you want alternative medicine, vegan restaurants, funky hippy stuff then the SE is your place to go. It's a big area and there are probably better pockets than others to live in and still be in that space
- if you want a more corporate type job then you want to be somewhere on the west side. If you like suburbia you might like to find a nicer part of Beaverton for example.
- then you've got the whole NW 23rd area a bit over priced but trendy, fun shops

I'm leaving out a lot, but focusing on what you want helps narrow down that big map and the crime statistics help choose within that.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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If it is that hard to find a place in Portland that is thug free I imagine some of the more northern states, i.e. Montana, North Dakota or Wyoming might have cities that fit a more homogenous demographic.

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