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Old 01-01-2010, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Athens Greece
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Hello, I am writing up a business plan. I will be visiting Portland to scout out locations and to see how much I really do like it there.

I have a couple locations in mind but would love to get feedback from you to which areas need this type of food.

I want to bring authentic Greek Food and Pizza and other treats to Portland while creating jobs.

The good is that will also be family run by %100 Greeks (by blood). And myself who much of my life raised by Italians and Irish and know my NY area pizza, subs, eats with experience. Also been living in Greece for many years and would like to introduce authentic gyros on the menu too.. along with other gourmet Greek style food.

And yea good pizza. I hear its very difficult to find good pizza in Portland. And from the popular places I have researched, I don't understand how they can charge over $15 for a 13 inch pizza. That ridiculous and I am from Jersey where cost of living is high. 10 dollars for a 16 inch is more reasonable. Isn't there a high demand for pizza? like everywhere else I know?

Would you be interested in this type of restaurant in your neighborhood? Thanks for any feedback . your experiences on Greek food and pizza or even comments on a new business is welcomed.

BP
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Oceanside and Chehalem Mtns.
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I hear its very difficult to find good pizza in Portland.
BP
It's easy to find "good" pizza in Portland but there's a void when it comes to Tier 1 class pizza. Nothing in this area comes even close to famous east coast places like Patsy's, Varasanos, Johnny's, Luzzo's, etc.

There are a coupe places that think they come close but in reality they're far from Tier 1. (Some would say that APizza Scholls comes close but I would rate them pretty low).

If you can make really great Pizza then you should do well in this area once you get established.

Location will be your key challenge. Portland's costs are high. (ex: rent, labor - high min. wage, taxes and fees)

Good luck!!
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I have not been in every restaurant in Portland, nor in every pastry shop, but I find there isn't enough cannolies in this town, nor other Sicilian styled pastries. I have found a few places that sell Greek and Eastern Mediterranean styled pastries, but a bit on the overpriced side. However, I was not impressed; the baklava I tried, it was, well..., ahm...., too much biscuit / flour after taste if I am describing it correctly. I think 'bland' or 'lacking-distinction' to cut through the coffee it was served with could also express my disappointment. I know in Detroit and Pittsburgh area, the people who I knew told me it all came down to the phyllo (filo?) dough supplier. Great filo dough is the foundation, as I am sure you know all too well,

When you get here, you will of course make up your own mind, but I thought I would pass on my observation.

Phil
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Athens Greece
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yea you need a specific thin phylo (filo in greek) and plenty of layers of that to make baklava. Shouldn't be floury like you say.. maybe not enough oil or butter between layers and/or filo layers not thin enough. done correctly to get that crispyness.

Thanks davefr .... I hear ya. There is a place on hawthorne that has that pie for 15 and change (13inch pie) .. ok maybe their rent is sooo high or food costs are high if ingredients not done by hand. I got to look into, but still NJ and even NYC for that type of pizza joint is less price.

And yea location is going to be the biggest challenge
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