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Old 05-17-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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Hep B immunization is a public health issue. The reason it is given at birth is that it is quite effective at interrupting transmission of Hep B infection from mother to child. If the newborn is born to a mother who is infected with Hep B, and does not receive the vaccine at birth, or treatment, the baby will very likely contract a chronic Hep B infection, and develop liver cancer by the teenage years. So since the kid is going to need it anyway, and since there is the possibility of a mother somehow not being screened before birth, it makes the most sense to do this vaccine right after birth for every baby.

But the fact is, if the mom was immunized against Hep B, and was screened for infection with Hep B during the pregnancy and found to be immune, then there is really no chance of the baby contracting Hep B at birth.
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Old 05-17-2016, 03:44 PM
 
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Hep B immunization is a public health issue. The reason it is given at birth is that it is quite effective at interrupting transmission of Hep B infection from mother to child. If the newborn is born to a mother who is infected with Hep B, and does not receive the vaccine at birth, or treatment, the baby will very likely contract a chronic Hep B infection, and develop liver cancer by the teenage years. So since the kid is going to need it anyway, and since there is the possibility of a mother somehow not being screened before birth, it makes the most sense to do this vaccine right after birth for every baby.

But the fact is, if the mom was immunized against Hep B, and was screened for infection with Hep B during the pregnancy and found to be immune, then there is really no chance of the baby contracting Hep B at birth.
Not at birth, but there is a chance of the child contracting Hep B in infancy and having a 90% chance of becoming a carrier for life, getting liver cancer, cirrhosis of the liver, etc in later life. Mom's Hep B status can change from the time she's tested in early pregnancy until delivery, sometimes testing doesn't get done as with late prenatal care, or some reason. It's preferable to vaccinate in infancy, when the chance of developing complications from the disease is much higher than later on.

Once Hep B was recommended for infants in 1991, many states added Hep B to their school vaccine requirements as well. Some, like Colorado, instituted a two-tier program, requiring it of incoming kindergartners and 7th graders, so that eventually it was required for all grades. My oldest daughter, born in 1984 (age 32), missed that requirement by a year, but we got her the vaccine anyway. But there are lots of moms that age and older who were not vaccinated. And other states just required the vaccine for K entry, making the oldest ones to have been required to get it in their 20s. So there are many non-immune moms out there.
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Old 05-17-2016, 08:39 PM
 
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Yes, that is just my opinion, but here's why:


60 Dangers of the Hepatitis B Vaccine




The behaviors that cause Hepatitis B are not associated with a child that's only 12 hours old.
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I didn't have any trouble declining the hep B vaccine when my DD was born, personally. All I did was say we didn't want it.
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Your lucky they accepted that so easily...

They have an agenda to compromise as many immune systems as they can!!!

Don't even try to have a rational conversation here. Most of the people are so rabidly pro-any vaccine that it's impossible.

By the way, doctors don't know everything. I know a number of kids who would have died had their parents listened to doctors and not pushed about finding out what was actually wrong.
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Old 05-17-2016, 09:07 PM
 
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Don't even try to have a rational conversation here. Most of the people are so rabidly pro-any vaccine that it's impossible.

By the way, doctors don't know everything. I know a number of kids who would have died had their parents listened to doctors and not pushed about finding out what was actually wrong.
Rabidly pro-vaccine? No. Parents, who weigh the odds, do our research, and make informed decisions. When you have children, you are free to do the same.
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Old 05-18-2016, 03:51 AM
 
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You mean parents who all do the same thing and BLINDLY FOLLOW MAINSTREAM BS!! (Thats what most do. THEY HAVE NO MIND OF THIER OWN TO HELP THEM SEE HOW DAMAGING THIS IS)
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:53 AM
 
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Rabidly pro-vaccine? No. Parents, who weigh the odds, do our research, and make informed decisions. When you have children, you are free to do the same.

That's what all parents should do. And it's perfectly OK if they come to different decisions in the end because people do have different risk factors when it comes to Hep B. Weigh the risk, research and make an informed decision.
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:13 AM
 
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You mean parents who all do the same thing and BLINDLY FOLLOW MAINSTREAM BS!! (Thats what most do. THEY HAVE NO MIND OF THIER OWN TO HELP THEM SEE HOW DAMAGING THIS IS)
No, that's not what I mean, no matter how how loud you write it. Do you even have kids, or are you merely looking for some controversy? I don't play that game, just like I never played any games regarding the health of my children.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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Not at birth, but there is a chance of the child contracting Hep B in infancy and having a 90% chance of becoming a carrier for life, getting liver cancer, cirrhosis of the liver, etc in later life. Mom's Hep B status can change from the time she's tested in early pregnancy until delivery, sometimes testing doesn't get done as with late prenatal care, or some reason. It's preferable to vaccinate in infancy, when the chance of developing complications from the disease is much higher than later on.

Once Hep B was recommended for infants in 1991, many states added Hep B to their school vaccine requirements as well. Some, like Colorado, instituted a two-tier program, requiring it of incoming kindergartners and 7th graders, so that eventually it was required for all grades. My oldest daughter, born in 1984 (age 32), missed that requirement by a year, but we got her the vaccine anyway. But there are lots of moms that age and older who were not vaccinated. And other states just required the vaccine for K entry, making the oldest ones to have been required to get it in their 20s. So there are many non-immune moms out there.
Your oldest daughter is the same age as my younger daughter. My oldest was born in 1979. Those students who were already in school in 1991, were not required to get additional new vaccinations which came on the market. Hep. B and the Chicken Pox vax were added while mine were already in school. The school did not demand additional new vaccinations back in those days for kids already in the school. This was NY.

While my younger daughter, who is a Mom, did not get that Hep. B. vax as a child, she probably did get that, and a lot more, when she joined the Military the year before she had her kids. I do not think she has any record of what vaccinations she got in the Military. My 37 year old daughter has not had that Hep. B. I declined mine when I worked in both MR/DD Group Homes and Public Schools. Both occupations require TB testing for staff, offer Hep. B, but it is not required. Now, maybe they should TEST staff for Hep. B instead of asking for a vaccination? What good would it do if they are already infected?

What about Hep. C. for which there is no vaccine? Couldn't an infant catch that too from a parent, caregiver, etc. Who is getting tested for this? Isn't it transferred in the same manner as Hep. B? Why all the worry about Hep. B and not for Hep. C? Because there is no vaccine for it? Hep. C is being called "The Silent Epidemic" because millions could be infected and not know they are.
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Old 05-19-2016, 12:01 PM
 
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The law in Colorado included kindergartners and incoming 7th graders starting in 1997. Different states have different immunization policies.
State Mandates on Immunization and Vaccine-Preventable Diseases: Hepatitis B

We have a vaccine against Hepatitis B so we have policies about it. Yes, people are still vulnerable to Hep C. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to eliminate Hep B!
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Old 05-20-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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Students, who were in high school for all these state mandates, would have missed that Hep. B vaccination. My older daughter (37) graduated in 1996.

Parents in their 30's today would not have been required to get Hep. B. in school.
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