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Old 08-27-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Too much generalization going on here. I currently live in CA and want to move to the Prescott area as a constitutional conservative since it leans that way right now. If someone wants to live in an area that is liberal in AZ, they should be looking into Flagstaff or Pima county. This wouldn't work for me.


I have lived in AZ before in the late 70's when Barry Goldwater was in the Senate and plan to move to a red state that hopefully will stay that way.
As a fellow "Constitutional Conservative" I came from a "blue" state too. Moved here for the same reason that you want to. It's comforting to know that we are not alone. Hopefully we can all work together to ensure that Arizona remains a "red" state. It is indeed one of the last bastions of freedom. Hopefully the United States of America will remain a "Constitutional Republic" as it was originally founded. Contrary to what the "Left" believes, we are not a democracy. There's a lot at stake in this next election cycle.

I don't think you'll have any problems here. Of all the people we've come into contact with there has been no animosity towards us when they found out that we were from New York. As we have more in common with Arizonans than New Yorkers. I thank God for that. We have to consider ourselves very lucky to have found such a wonderful place to live, amongst such great and free thinking people.

At least from our personal experience most of the Californians that we've met are here for the same reasons we are. They are fed up with all the oppressive Liberal BS that has been rammed down their throats. From taxation, to healthcare, to the vehicles we drive, to the types of houses we should live in, to the guns we own. They wish to control and dictate every aspect of our lives. EVERYTHING!

New York's Governor Andrew Cuomo boasted after the passage of New York's "Safe Act" that "those who do not think like him are not welcome in New York". How's that for tolerance and civility that they so demand of others? Well, good riddance "Andy" we are free of your little hell hole and fiefdom. We couldn't be any happier to oblige you. We've taken our business and income to a state that for the most part "thinks like us". We'd rather spend our money here in Arizona instead of watching it disappear into your giant cesspool of corruption.

Moving to a "red" state has been a liberating and invigorating experience. In the word's of the late great Martin Luther King Jr.--"Free at last; Free at last; Thank God Almighty we are free at last"

After 6 years we couldn't imagine, even want to, nor have any desire to live anywhere else.
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:01 PM
 
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This board turns into a loony bin sometimes. Welcome all, please put your best self forward and do your part to help AZ prosper.
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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This board turns into a loony bin sometimes. Welcome all, please put your best self forward and do your part to help AZ prosper.
Nothing like a little name calling to help AZ prosper. I take it you do not like my comments. Fine, where am I wrong?
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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Nothing like a little name calling to help AZ prosper. I take it you do not like my comments. Fine, where am I wrong?
I must have missed where I quoted or even mentioned you.

I only now saw your post I get the gist, me Conservative good Dem Libruls bad!
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Old 08-27-2016, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I must have missed where I quoted or even mentioned you.

I only now saw your post I get the gist, me Conservative good Dem Libruls bad!
You didn't have to. Your immediate response and name calling was all I needed to know. You still haven't proved where I was wrong?

For some reason you "libruls" by the way it's spelled "Liberals". Think us "Conservatives" are just a bunch of dumb stupid hicks. Hence you use the term "Libruls" kinda like "by the way can I get me a huntin' license?" John Kerry spoke during his candidacy for president. Not too condescending are you?

The hypocrisy of those on the Left always seems to amaze me:

You've got Bernie Sanders an avowed socialist buying his third home on Lake Champlain for $600,000. Who had an income of over $200,000 yet only donated $9000 to charity. S'matter Bernie? Don't wanna' give up 90% of your income? Under his system of government he'd be living in a subsidized one room apartment.

You've got Al Gore, champion of global warming, living in a mansion, flying in private jets along with being chauffeured around with an entourage of gas guzzling limousines. I wonder what his "carbon footprint" is?

The DNC also champions of global warming held their convention in an air conditioned stadium. I wonder what the "carbon footprint" was for that event? Not to mention the fuel that was consumed transporting all of those who attended?

You've got the Clinton's both champions of the downtrodden and minorities living in lily white Chappaqua, NY. Yet they criticize and condemn the lily white for not living in minority neighborhoods? Whattsa' matter Mt. Vernon, Yonkers or the South Bronx is not good enough for the Clinton's?

They too live in a mansion surrounded by private armed security guards while trying to convince the rest of us that we do not need guns for self protection. Their net worth is around a quarter of a billion dollars as they rail against the rich. They're all for raising taxes on the rest of us, yet they set up their own private tax shelter (The Clinton Foundation) which jetted them around the world to conduct $250,000 speaking engagements. They also donated $1,000,000 to that foundation as a write off. But that's okay if Hillary becomes president they will no longer be a part of it. Their daughter Chelsea will run it.

And Liberals think that we are all a bunch of stupid hicks?
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Old 08-27-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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You didn't have to. Your immediate response and name calling was all I needed to know. You still haven't proved where I was wrong?

For some reason you "libruls" by the way it's spelled "Liberals". Think us "Conservatives" are just a bunch of dumb stupid hicks. Hence you use the term "Libruls" kinda like "by the way can I get me a huntin' license?" John Kerry spoke during his candidacy for president. Not too condescending are you?

The hypocrisy of those on the Left always seems to amaze me:

You've got Bernie Sanders an avowed socialist buying his third home on Lake Champlain for $600,000. Who had an income of over $200,000 yet only donated $9000 to charity. S'matter Bernie? Don't wanna' give up 90% of your income? Under his system of government he'd be living in a subsidized one room apartment.

You've got Al Gore, champion of global warming, living in a mansion, flying in private jets along with being chauffeured around with an entourage of gas guzzling limousines. I wonder what his "carbon footprint" is?

The DNC also champions of global warming held their convention in an air conditioned stadium. I wonder what the "carbon footprint" was for that event? Not to mention the fuel that was consumed transporting all of those who attended?

You've got the Clinton's both champions of the downtrodden and minorities living in lily white Chappaqua, NY. Yet they criticize and condemn the lily white for not living in minority neighborhoods? Whattsa' matter Mt. Vernon, Yonkers or the South Bronx is not good enough for the Clinton's?

They too live in a mansion surrounded by private armed security guards while trying to convince the rest of us that we do not need guns for self protection. Their net worth is around a quarter of a billion dollars as they rail against the rich. They're all for raising taxes on the rest of us, yet they set up their own private tax shelter (The Clinton Foundation) which jetted them around the world to conduct $250,000 speaking engagements. They also donated $1,000,000 to that foundation as a write off. But that's okay if Hillary becomes president they will no longer be a part of it. Their daughter Chelsea will run it.

And Liberals think that we are all a bunch of stupid hicks?
I mean you aren't wrong at all, but what does any of this have to do with Prescott?
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Old 08-27-2016, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I mean you aren't wrong at all, but what does any of this have to do with Prescott?
It all started when the subject was brought up by another poster, "Zo Nee":
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Arizona's status as a Red State may be in jeopardy as soon as the left leaning population of Phoenix exceeds the remainder of the state. That will be the beginning of the downward death spiral.
I agree with he/she 100%. Just about every large metro area of the United States are run by Democrats and have all of the problems that are associated with it. Problems that never seem to get solved. Democrats rely on a large class of impoverished people in order to maintain their power structure. Why would they want that to change? Hence the need through illegal immigration to import tens of millions more of the world's impoverished people to our shores.

Prescott as far as I can tell and Yavapai County in general is one of the most Conservative areas of Arizona. People who are deciding to move here or anywhere should be aware of that fact. If Arizona were a "blue" state, I'd be in Utah. If you get my drift. It makes no sense to move to a different location that is not compatible with your way of thinking. Or try to change the place you've moved to into the place you've just left.

Also the assumption that all Californians are Liberal, just as there are many that assume that those of us from the east, in particular New York may be also. Maybe those that live in the metro areas are. I'm not sure about California, but once you get 50 miles north of NYC the state is pretty much "Red".

As for me I've always had a lifelong desire to live in the southwest, Arizona in particular. The fact that it is a "Red" state was a huge plus when deciding to move here. My whole family for generations have always voted Republican along with my wife's. There was absolutely no culture shock for us when we moved. It's such a great feeling to live where you feel you belong.

Besides this whole upcoming election season has got me going. Having lived in both Arizona and New York I am in a good position to evaluate the differences regarding quality of life issues. In New York we felt like prisoners or more accurately, subjects.

Sorry for the long responses, but I could write pages of this stuff.
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Old 08-28-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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I don't think you'll have any problems here. Of all the people we've come into contact with there has been no animosity towards us when they found out that we were from New York. As we have more in common with Arizonans than New Yorkers. I thank God for that. We have to consider ourselves very lucky to have found such a wonderful place to live, amongst such great and free thinking people.

At least from our personal experience most of the Californians that we've met are here for the same reasons we are. They are fed up with all the oppressive Liberal BS that has been rammed down their throats. From taxation, to healthcare, to the vehicles we drive, to the types of houses we should live in, to the guns we own. They wish to control and dictate every aspect of our lives. EVERYTHING!

This sounds like great information on how well you have been received in Prescott. I'm trying to keep track of people in office or running in the state elections in AZ and Doug Ducey appears to be doing a good job in help to limit government overreach so far as governor. He got some good endorsements when he was running for governor from senators like Mike Lee of UT and Ted Cruz. Would like to see Kelli Ward defeat John McCain in the Senate primary race but not sure that will happen.


Much different political environment than what we have in CA, where Jerry Brown is constantly signing into law additional gun control and greenhouse gas legislation provided to him by the CA state senate. Gun and Ammo already has CA as one of the worst states in the nation for gun owners where AZ was listed as #1.
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Old 08-28-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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This sounds like great information on how well you have been received in Prescott. I'm trying to keep track of people in office or running in the state elections in AZ and Doug Ducey appears to be doing a good job in help to limit government overreach so far as governor. He got some good endorsements when he was running for governor from senators like Mike Lee of UT and Ted Cruz. Would like to see Kelli Ward defeat John McCain in the Senate primary race but not sure that will happen.


Much different political environment than what we have in CA, where Jerry Brown is constantly signing into law additional gun control and greenhouse gas legislation provided to him by the CA state senate. Gun and Ammo already has CA as one of the worst states in the nation for gun owners where AZ was listed as #1.
We're on the same page there, brother! I already cast my vote for Kelli Ward. However like you I don't think she will secure the nomination. In which case I will be voting for Senator McCain.

I voted for Doug Ducey, no surprise there. As far as I'm concerned he's a straight up guy and I have not been disappointed with him as governor. Same can be said for Congressman Paul Gosar who has been an unapologetic Conservative through and through. I see we're both fans of Mike Lee and Ted Cruz. Cruz and Carson were my choices for the Republican nomination for president.

In Yavapai County, David Stringer and Noel Campbell for state representatives for District 1 and Marybeth Hrin for District 1 County Supervisor. I've really been impressed with Marybeth Hrin. She's a member of the Arizona Citizens Defense League who's efforts have been instrumental in defending and upholding the 2nd Amendment. They were successful in passing Arizona's "Constitutional Carry" law where permits are not required to carry firearms either openly or concealed. You may want to consider becoming a member of the AZCDL

Arizona as you probably know always allowed open carry without a permit. Permits were then required to carry concealed up until August of 2010 when then Governor Brewer signed "Constitutional Carry" into law. In spite of all the fear mongering of wild west shoot outs in the streets this never came to fruition.

Fortunately, Arizona has a very specific Constitutional clause in it's state Constitution regarding the bearing of arms:

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"The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men."---Excerpt from the Constitution from the State of Arizona. Section 26. Bearing Arms.
I defy anyone to misinterpret that first sentence.
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Old 08-28-2016, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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In reality Prescott has been nominated as one of the best places to retire in many polls and magazines for example

Prescott, Arizona - Best Boomer Towns - Best 21 US Places ...
bestboomertowns.com/towns/prescott_arizona/
Known as “Everyone's Home Town,” Prescott is located in Arizona's mountains at ... ranked by Money Magazine as a top 20 place to retire in the United States.
Prescott, Arizona - In Photos: The 25 Best Places To Retire ...
Prescott, Arizona - In Photos: The 25 Best Places To Retire In 2013 - Forbes
Forbes
Fast fact: Named for a Massachusetts historian. Pros: Reasonable cost of living, good state tax climate, good weather, above average air quality, low crime.
These Are The 10 Best Places To Retire In Arizona - Movoto
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Aug 1, 2015 - The full top 10 ranking of the best places to retire in Arizona looks like ... in the hot and dry Arizona climate, Prescott Valley is definitely for you.
Best Places to Live in Prescott, Arizona
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Prescott is a pleasant, prosperous, and historic desert mountain city located about 60 miles south of Sedona, a popular arts and retirement community.
The best place to retire isn't Florida - USA Today
http://www.city-data.com/forum/presc...tire/28481565/
USA Today
Jun 8, 2015 - Three cities in Arizona made the top 10 list of best places to retire, including Prescott, Ariz. Prescott's Whiskey Row, pictured here,

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...aces+to+retire
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