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And even if it does turn out to be a Somali, how do you know it was a refugee? There are plenty of LEGAL immigrants from Somalia in Minneapolis these days.
1 Healthcare—control healthcare and you control the people
2 Poverty—increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live
3 Debt—increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4 Gun control—Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5 Welfare—Take control of every aspect of their lives (food, housing, income)
6 Education—Take control of what people read and listen to–take control of what children learn in school
7 Religion—Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools
8 Class warfare—Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
Where/who is this quote from? Isn't this just some conservative mumbo-jumbo trying to make people believe that Democrats are all a bunch of Socialists trying to take away their rights? Take #1 for instance. The Affordable Care Act didn't aim to "control healthcare", but to make healthcare available to everyone. (Admittedly it did not accomplish that, but that's not the argument here). Healthcare is currently controlled BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES as a money-maker for them and their shareholders.
#7 Religion: Why is removing the belief in God from government/schools a bad thing? No one is trying to remove the right to believe in the God of your choice in this country but I believe the first amendment to the constitution addressed the separation of church and state. (Oh but wait... You want your kid to go to a religious school? That's allowed, too! )
I could go on, but I have to run. I have to work tomorrow. Hospitals don't close on Christmas.
It's amusing reading the conservatives here thinking they can escape liberalism by moving to Arizona. I'm sorry, but your reprieve will be but temporary. The more people who move there the more liberal Arizona will become, even if most of the people who move there are conservatives. Why? Because the more heavily urbanized a place gets, the more liberal it gets. That is practically an inviolate law of physics. The kids of the conservatives will increasingly become liberal (especially if they gain higher levels of education), and the more densely populated the cities become the more the people in those cities will demand new services. All of that will happen as more and more people from elsewhere move to the big cities (which, after all, is where most of them move to anyway). The cities (again, mostly Phoenix) will get bigger and bigger, and the other areas will seem (proportionately) smaller and smaller. Demand for more services leads to liberalism (in fact, it basically is liberalism). The more Arizona becomes dominated by big cities and big city politics (mostly around Phoenix, of course), the more state politics will become liberalized. This has happened time and time again and some people don't seem to learn. Remember when Colorado was a bedrock red conservative state? Same with Georgia, Virginia and a dozen other states in the past 50 years. The only way to keep a place conservative is to have it remain dominated by rural interests and rural mindsets and culture. Not gonna happen in Arizona. Arizona will eventually go the same path as Colorado. It's pretty predictable, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
With that logic, once all 50 states become more urban they will be blue states. So according to you it's inevitable that the US will become a giant utopia 3rd world county of rich and poor. Some people don't want to live in a country under an iron fist rule. Maybe people don't learn because they lack logic by repeating the same thing in blue states and expect different results with left wing ideology which is what liberalism is... a mental disorder. In the end, western civilization is going a downward spiral in another 50-100 years, might as well move to a different country before **** hits the fan.
Not all states are going to become heavily urbanized. I'm not going to expect Wyoming, Montana and South Dakota to become blue states any time soon, for example.
Not all states are going to become heavily urbanized. I'm not going to expect Wyoming, Montana and South Dakota to become blue states any time soon, for example.
If Wyoming, Montana and South Dakota are the only red states in 50 years, might as well kiss your freedoms goodbye and move out of the US. The Democratic party goal is to transform the country into something else.
It's amusing reading the conservatives here thinking they can escape liberalism by moving to Arizona. I'm sorry, but your reprieve will be but temporary. The more people who move there the more liberal Arizona will become, even if most of the people who move there are conservatives. Why? Because the more heavily urbanized a place gets, the more liberal it gets. That is practically an inviolate law of physics. The kids of the conservatives will increasingly become liberal (especially if they gain higher levels of education), and the more densely populated the cities become the more the people in those cities will demand new services. All of that will happen as more and more people from elsewhere move to the big cities (which, after all, is where most of them move to anyway). The cities (again, mostly Phoenix) will get bigger and bigger, and the other areas will seem (proportionately) smaller and smaller. Demand for more services leads to liberalism (in fact, it basically is liberalism). The more Arizona becomes dominated by big cities and big city politics (mostly around Phoenix, of course), the more state politics will become liberalized. This has happened time and time again and some people don't seem to learn. Remember when Colorado was a bedrock red conservative state? Same with Georgia, Virginia and a dozen other states in the past 50 years. The only way to keep a place conservative is to have it remain dominated by rural interests and rural mindsets and culture. Not gonna happen in Arizona. Arizona will eventually go the same path as Colorado. It's pretty predictable, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
What you said is true regarding the influence of the major cities on state policies.
You may be right, and you may be wrong about Arizona. No one can accurately predict the future. Just as Trump was never gonna' get elected. Clinton had it in the bag, at least that's what she thought. Most of the people that I know personally that have moved here moved to escape their Liberal hell holes just as we did. If Arizona does turn "blue" I don't see it happening anytime soon. At least not in my lifetime.
I don't see Georgia turning "blue" anytime soon either. In fact during the last 10 years Democrats have lost over 1000 state and local seats including some governorships. They didn't do too well in some of the special elections either. Except for the coasts all indications are that America is getting "redder". The media is doing all they can to change that. However people are losing trust in them like never before.
The New Jersey and Virginia governors races came as no surprise. Both are "blue" states especially New Jersey. Christie was an anomaly and a true "Rino". Gillespie did better than expected in Virginia. Moore was about as bad as a candidate could get in Alabama. Yet that race was extremely close. It's unlikely Jones will be re-elected when his term expires. He's already starting to sound like a Republican.
Arizona unlike some of the other states does have water issues which may limit it's future growth. Phoenix, Tucson, Yuma, Lake Havasu and Bullhead City are hotter than hell during the summer. There are a lot of people that just won't be able to tolerate that.
Virginia turning "blue" was no surprise because of Fairfax County and the D.C. area. Both Maryland and Delaware are heavily Democratic and that cancer has spread into northern Virginia. There are a lot of government jobs in those states. Liberals are all for big government so there are no surprises there. As for the rest of Virginia? It's a sea of "red".
I have cousins that live in Colorado, at least according to them a lot of wealthy Liberal "yuppies" vacationed there and later on moved in. They had the money and wherewithal to influence the states politics which attracted even more Liberals to that state. Of course that's just their opinion and I don't know how much truth there is to that?
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I hate to be really nit-picky here, but if you're non-religious and don't go to church, you aren't a Christian.
For whatever it's worth, my wife and I were both baptized as Christians. I'm Protestant she's Catholic. We both believe there is or was a God or Creator whomever or whatever they may be. The origins and structure of life and all of our surroundings is just too complicated to believe otherwise. "Because" is not the answer to "why". There has to be a reason.
So what if we don't go to church? That does not make us Atheists. We're certainly not Jewish and sure as hell not Muslim. As I mentioned religious services bore the hell out of me, just as going to an opera or a Broadway play doesn't interest me. Not going to church is a personal preference, there's no need to read anything different about it.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against people who are religious except for those who take their religion to an extreme by forcing it on others.
Republicans need to get out the vote in urban areas so they don't always have to rely on high turnout in rural areas. What large city is ran by a GOP mayor currently?
If Wyoming, Montana and South Dakota are the only red states in 50 years, might as well kiss your freedoms goodbye and move out of the US. The Democratic party goal is to transform the country into something else.
I don't think we're gonna' have to worry about that, on a county by county basis The United States of America is predominantly "red". Just take a look at the last electoral map. Trump won 3,084 out of 3,141 counties. Clinton only 57. To win that many counties by Trump was a clear repudiation of the direction this country was headed under Obama. California and New York does not represent the United States as a whole. Trump, like him or not had a message to "Make America Great Again" and an America first agenda that resonated, along with being a political outsider not beholden to either party. People have become just sick and tired of career politicians and he is loathed by the establishment of both parties. Especially by Democrats that can't stomach the fact that he defeated their Goddess and the almighty Clinton machine.
California has become a shining example of what America will become if Liberals take over the nation. As much as they would like us to believe it will be a long time before that goes over too well for those of us in "fly over" country.
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Republicans need to get out the vote in urban areas so they don't always have to rely on high turnout in rural areas. What large city is ran by a GOP mayor currently?
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The Curse of Violent Crime in Democrat-Run Cities. ... by Democratic mayors. Most, in fact, have been ... dangerous city, has not had a Republican mayor ...
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This proves my point that Democrats need a permanent underclass to maintain their power structure throughout America. Not because they care so much about the downtrodden.
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What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP!
Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected
a Republican mayor since 1961;
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954;
Cincinnati, OH (3rd)… since 1984;
Cleveland, OH (4th)… since 1989;
Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
St. Louis, MO (6th)…. since 1949;
El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
Milwaukee, WI (8th)… since 1908;
Philadelphia, PA (9th)… since 1952;
Newark, NJ (10th)… since 1907.
Einstein once said, “The definition of insanity is doing
the same thing over and over again and always
expecting different results.”
It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats - And they are still disadvantaged…
Hmmm…. ---snopes.com
Indeed they are still disadvantaged. They serve a purpose. The end justifies the means.
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