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Old 01-08-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Where the ball is? Since when? Players always extend the ball after being tackled and the spot is never where the actual ball landed. And refs always move the ball back. I've never seen the refs count the position of the ball as anything unless it were a touchdown. I thought it was a terrible call.
You are wrong. It is called forward progression and it absolutely is where the ball is.

Obviously you can't extend the ball AFTER being tackled. But you sure as heck can do it before you are tackled and that is what counts.
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:39 AM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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You are wrong. It is called forward progression and it absolutely is where the ball is.

Obviously you can't extend the ball AFTER being tackled. But you sure as heck can do it before you are tackled and that is what counts.
So in otherwords if a player is tackled as he extends the ball...it's where the ball is? Not his knees, waist etc? That's not forward progression of the ball. I've observed players extending the ball several times while being tackled only to watch it move back a foot or two.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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So in otherwords if a player is tackled as he extends the ball...it's where the ball is? Not his knees, waist etc? That's not forward progression of the ball. I've observed players extending the ball several times while being tackled only to watch it move back a foot or two.
I missed the play in question and cannot comment. It's possible the spot was bad, it happens. Many players will extend the ball further in an attempt to "fake out" the refs. It hardly (if ever) works.

Once the ball carriers knee hits the play is over but the position of the ball is where its ruled down.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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Or where it is supposed to be ruled down...
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:11 AM
 
Location: NJ
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So in otherwords if a player is tackled as he extends the ball...it's where the ball is? Not his knees, waist etc? That's not forward progression of the ball. I've observed players extending the ball several times while being tackled only to watch it move back a foot or two.
The spot of the ball is never where the player's knee, arm, etc. hit the ground. It is where the ball is when the player's knee, arm, etc. hit the ground.

But you have to couple that with forward progression. If you get knocked backwards the spot of the ball is going to be the farthest point the ball was moved forward, not where the player was tackled.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:21 PM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Lions' D backfield was under represented due to injuries.

Need to get much deeper than where they are now, and it ain't gonna happen with the draft this spring.

Some free agent signings will give them a chance at the division title.

I like their chances.

0-16 3 years ago...and can now boast about being in the top 12 teams of the league.

It's been fun this year, and gonna be more fun next year.

They'll be here in AZ and I'll be present to cheer 'em on.


The only sucky part is that it's gonna be a $300 day.

I hope it's entertaining.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Two Rivers, Wisconsin
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Lions are the team to watch in the North, Bears have always been the Packers 1st rivalry but it may well be Lions/Packers in the future! A few more pieces added to the Lions and watch out NFL!
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:40 PM
 
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Lions need a defensive makeover
You can say that again. Scrap that entire bunch and start from scratch. Absolutely horrible performance shown by them. I am still fuming from the loss.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:33 AM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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I was reading the Detroit News' commentary about the Lions this year.....while they have improved dramatically.....there's a lot of work to be done yet.

10-6 record and eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.

5 of those losses were dealt by playoff teams this year and 4 of 'em were against division winners.


I think anyone's defense can look bad at times and I like to dream about getting some decent defensive backs and an all-pro running back.

Reality check:

Dropped passes and penalties killed the Lions this year. Cut those two maladies in half and Detroit is 14-2. Funny though, they still would've been a wild card team......
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Another season is in the books. Thankfully, this is a new Lions era. The Millen era is officially the past. It was an amazing season and I expect '12-'13 to be even better. I'm eagerly awaiting the draft and free agency to see how Schwartz fixes the gaps in the secondary and running game.

Go Lions!
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