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Old 11-12-2010, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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The guy's name is Peyton, not Eli.

You can not touch a QB's head. PERIOD.

Kickers and punters have been faking contact and drawing penalties for decades. Get over it.
you mean diving like soccer players?

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We're learning more and more about brain trauma - and its irreversible condition. The sport needs to evolve. There's no reason why 40-yr old ex-players need to have dementia or memory loss equivalent to an 90-yr nursing home patient. The NFL, as a business, is responsible to an extent for the safety of its players. Players need to learn the rules and not go helmet-to-helmet. Did anyone see Ray Lewis's interview on NFL Network last night. He doesn't get those penalties because he doesn't tackle by leading with his head.



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the NFL doesn't care about the players, they care about not getting sued 20 years from now saying how they didn't do all they could to stop brain injuries. Nothing more, nothing less.

if it's that big of a problem it's time to take off the helmets and maybe the other pads. Works in rugby and aussie rules. And don't tell me those guys aren't as tough as NFL players b/c that's B.S.
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Old 11-12-2010, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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you mean diving like soccer players?
You can call it whatever you want, it has been happening long before Goodell took over.
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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You can call it whatever you want, it has been happening long before Goodell took over.

I'm glad people are seeing it and admiting it. Someone above made a disparing remark about soccer and diving but it happens in "American" sports as well. I'm glad others are seeing it.

I was watching Bos-Mia opening game and Rondo dove within the first 2 mins of the game, the commentators even said it was a dive.

As an over 3 decade fan of hockey I've seen diving become fairly common in the game.

people see soccer as a kiddie sport, not a game played at a quick speed by world class athletes

say what you want about soccer, I do like the fact that Idon't have to sit thru endless commercials to watch it.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Players are S.O.L. concerning their health after their football career is over. The NFL provides very little - even more reason to provide for the player's safety.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Some T-1 Line
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I'm all for player safety, but it's too lopsided, petty or inconsistent.

On offense, RBs dip on players, head first, all the time. Offensive players with the ball can grab the heck out of a defensive player's facemask, but you can't even make incidental contact with an offensive player's facemask.

Two weeks ago, a player's hand inadvertently TOUCHED Peyton Manning's helmet and was given a personal foul. One player was reaching for a QB, fell and barely hit his legs and was given a personal foul. There needs to be judgement call given to the refs instead of ironclad rules.

Some helmet to helmet is fined, some are not. There's no consistency.

Pretty soon, all scores are going to be 91-87 because the offense has all of the leverage. They might as well change over to flag football.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I saw Stephen Jackson dip into a defender's helmet this past weekend - thought....WTF - he needs to be penalized. You're right about offensive guys not being called - so the rule isn't consistent.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:51 PM
 
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There are a VERY limited number of humans on the planet that can move a football team down the field against a defense where 240 lb guys can run a 4.3/40.Offense puts arses in the seats, and keeps people watching.Who do you want to see in the Super Bowl,a couple of back up QB's in a 10-7 game?
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Old 11-19-2010, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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The NFL is protecting their multi-million dollar investments. They couldn't care less about the player's safety. When you have owners shelling out $70 million contracts, they want a return on that investment. Can't get it if your player gets taken out with an injury. Welcome to big league sports where money drives the rules.
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Old 11-21-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Seems each week I see a couple very weak penalty calls. I think they need to define intent a bit better.
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Old 02-21-2016, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I am sick of Roger and I want him fired! Worst commissioner ever!
Agree totally. Goodell needs to go.
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