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Old 11-15-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Without looking at history, I'd think Archie Manning may have been one. He played for a lot of really bad Saints teams. I'm sure there are others.
That makes it sound as though Manning wasn't very good. The truth of the matter was, he would've been considered one of the greats, if only he played for a better team. I remember many games where he spent as much time picking himself up off the turf as he did dropping back to pass. This guy Palmer should never be mentioned in the same breath as Archie Manning.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:25 AM
 
Location: 3219'03.7"N 10643'55.9"W
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Palmer reminds me a lot of a QB in the late 80s-early 90s, Jim Everett, of the Los Angeles Rams. He started his career off in dynamic fashion, then faded considerably after losing to the 49ers in 1989 NFC Championship game. He had two incredible years of work, then his play tailed of suddenly, and dramatically. Similarly, Palmer had three statisically strong seasons in 2005-07, then injured his elbow in 2008, electing not to do the Tommy John surgery at the time, which I think has negatively impacted his velocity, and thus, his career arc.
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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That makes it sound as though Manning wasn't very good. The truth of the matter was, he would've been considered one of the greats, if only he played for a better team. I remember many games where he spent as much time picking himself up off the turf as he did dropping back to pass. This guy Palmer should never be mentioned in the same breath as Archie Manning.
Quite the contrary. I think you need to re-read my post as well as the one to which I was replying. I believe I'm making at least a similar point to yours -- that you don't bench a QB simply because of the team's record. It may not be the QB's fault, and Manning is a example of that. Whether or not the Bengals' woes are solely Palmer's responsibility is another conversation.
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