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Old 12-15-2010, 03:38 PM
 
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Nope-and I am a diehard Broncos fan...he had a great career but he wasn't a standout linebacker...
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:45 PM
 
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Yes. He played with fire, was a leader, and if not on the first go around, he should make it on his second.
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:31 AM
 
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Nope-and I am a diehard Broncos fan...he had a great career but he wasn't a standout linebacker...
Denvrsoul is right. Having four Super Bowl wins should certainly be defined as having a great career. The issue here is pro bowl appearances and being named all pro. Though he was named all pro twice, he has only been to 2 pro bowls. The linebackers who played in Romanowski's era are significantly higher in the count.

For instance, Mike Singletary has been to the pro bowl 10 times, Harry Carson 9 times, Rickey Jackson 6 times, Derrick Thomas 9 times; HOFers all. And there are others in the time Romo played (1989 to 2003) that are deserving who undoubtedly have similar stats, players such as Cornelius Bennett and Charles Haley. Both Bennett and Haley have been to the pro bowl 5 times. Haley would get the nod first as he has 5 SB rings. And then there is Chris Doleman who has been to the pro bowl 8 times. Why is he not in?

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Old 12-19-2010, 10:29 AM
 
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The question I ask myself is this "Was Bill Romanowski one of the best linebackers of his era?" The answer is NO. He as a good linebacker on some very good teams but he wasn't a standout on his own. He had some standout seasons but not a standout career.

I agree, he was on some very good teams, but got more of a name for being an edgy player rather than overwhelming the opponent.
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Old 12-19-2010, 10:31 AM
 
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Denvrsoul is right. Having four Super Bowl wins should certainly be defined as having a great career. The issue here is pro bowl appearances and being named all pro. Though he was named all pro twice, he has only been to 2 pro bowls. The linebackers who played in Romanowski's era are significantly higher in the count.

For instance, Mike Singletary has been to the pro bowl 10 times, Harry Carson 9 times, Rickey Jackson 6 times, Derrick Thomas 9 times; HOFers all. And there are others in the time Romo played (1989 to 2003) that are deserving who undoubtedly have similar stats, players such as Cornelius Bennett and Charles Haley. Both Bennett and Haley have been to the pro bowl 5 times. Haley would get the nod first as he has 5 SB rings. And then there is Chris Doleman who has been to the pro bowl 8 times. Why is he not in?
Good post...As a Viking fan I thought Doleman was a one trick speed rushing pony. Very fortunate to have a guy named Keith Millard tearing up the middle, leaving him with a single man to beat.
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Old 12-21-2010, 07:53 PM
 
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Good post...As a Viking fan I thought Doleman was a one trick speed rushing pony. Very fortunate to have a guy named Keith Millard tearing up the middle, leaving him with a single man to beat.
The fact he continued to produce after his first go-around with Minnesota lends credence was a very good player in his own right. From 1996 to 1998 he had 38 sacks with the 49'ers. Their defense was stacked with guys like Bryant Young, Dana Stubblefield and for one season Kevin Greene.

The bottom line is the guy could get to the quarterback. Have many guys AVERAGE 10 sacks a year for their career?
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Old 12-21-2010, 07:56 PM
 
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While I submit that there is an argument for justifying a bust in Canton, I'm still not sure exactly what that argument is.
If you can't think of an argument then how can you convince anybody he deserves to be in the hall of fame?
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Old 11-18-2018, 04:29 AM
 
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Just saw this old thread, and wanted to weigh in. I definitely say no on Bill Romanowski and the HoF. His did play a long time, but his honors profile is nearly non-existent at 0/2/none, and I don’t know of any sort of film study argument that would positively affect his case. Consider that none of Karl Mecklenburg (4/6/none), Sam Mills (3/5/none), Greg Lloyd (3/5/none), Cornelius Bennett (3/5/90s), or Pat Swilling (2/5/none) are likely inductees, and that makes Romo a total non-starter. A good (if staggeringly dirty) player for sure, but no way.
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Old 11-18-2018, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Two Rivers, Wisconsin
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This is an old thread and I lean towards not using SB wins as a stat for a player, takes the whole team to win a SB. I see many arguments about players but he's never won a SB, or only won 1 in a 15 year career. I don't get the emphasis placed on SB wins, not at all.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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Here's how Bill Romanowski got four rings:

*He was drafted in 1988 by a team that had the best record in the NFL the previous season, a pair of recent titles, and was led by the best QB of his era throwing to the best WR in history. That team went on to win two Super Bowls in Romanowski's first two seasons, while he was starting only 12 of 32 regular season games. He didn't start any of the six postseason wins the 49ers notched en route to those two titles.

*Later on, he signed with a team led by one of the NFL's great QBs and riding the legs of the NFL's best rusher of the late 1990s. He actually made a substantive contribution to that team, but none of the numerous All-Pros on that Denver team that won a pair of rings had the initials BR.

Bottom line? Romanowski meaningfully contributed to a pair of Super Bowl championships won by a team that was already good when he showed up. But he was just along for the ride for another pair. And the world is full of solid players who contributed to multiple titles that still don't get into Canton without paying admission.
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