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Old 01-05-2011, 01:03 PM
 
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But...

Russ Grimm was all set to be the next head coach, until the Steelers gave an interview to Mike Tomlin to satisfy the Rooney Rule.

Yes, Tomlin was picked for his 'character and intelligence'... but he only got the chance to exhibit those BECAUSE of the Rooney Rule!
And THAT IS WHY THE ROONEY RULE RULES !!!! For those whom dont like the Rooney rule, blame the NFL owners. The NBA first black coach was way back in the 60's ( Boston Celtics Bill Russell ) and the NBA has already had two black owners ( Robert Johnson/Jordan of the Bobcats ). The NBA is so far ahead of the NFL, the NBA dont need a Rooney rule. Maybe someday the NFL will catch up with the NBA but until then, I SUPPORT THE ROONEY RULE.
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Old 01-05-2011, 05:48 PM
 
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OK - so there is a rule that teams must interview a minority coach before making a decision on whom to hire.

With Dallas - they must wait if they hire Garrett until they interview a black coaching candidate.

With Minnesota - they can go forth and hire Frazier without interviewing anyone.

Fair? Unfair?


The "Rooney Rule" only applies if the team is looking OUTSIDE its immediate staff for a coach. You can PROMOTE someone from within without interviewing a minority candidate.

The Cowboys should be able to give Jason Garrett the job without interviewing anyone else.
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:07 AM
 
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The "Rooney Rule" only applies if the team is looking OUTSIDE its immediate staff for a coach. You can PROMOTE someone from within without interviewing a minority candidate.

The Cowboys should be able to give Jason Garrett the job without interviewing anyone else.

i may be mistaken, but i believe since they gave Garrett the "Interim" title, they must still abide by the Rooney Rule before lifting the "Interim" title.

i think i remember Jerry Jones asking or saying he wasn't sure why he had to use the Rooney Rule, because of that very reason you mentioned...
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Old 01-07-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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I think back when there were no minority coaches at all, there probably was pressure from players union and players themselves to have minority coaches. The same thing happened when there were no black/minority QBs.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:21 PM
 
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IMO, it's a stupid rule. Whoever is the most qualified should get the job. It shouldn't matter whether they have white, black or purple skin color.
You can measure playing ability and qualifications to be on the field. You can't do that for coaching or front office jobs. Therefore, it would be easy, as has been done in the past, to just hire white men as coaches or front office executives. Thankfully, the NFL or other pro leagues no longer do that (as much as in the past anyway).
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:25 PM
 
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I'm black and I think it's stupid. I'm a Panthers fan who doesn't care what color my coach is as long as he can bring winning football back to Carolina. We could, BTW, have the first hispanic head coach in Ron Rivera (a very deserving man.) The only color that should matter in football is whatever color the Lombardi trophy is.
Rivera would be a great hire, but not the first Hispanic head coach.

Tom Fears (Mexican American), Tom Flores (Mexican American), Jack del Rio (Cuban), Dennis Green (Cuban) have been NFL head coaches.
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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The rooney rule is a joke and it isn't. NFL teams are going to hire who they want to hire. There is no way you are going to tell a Multi-Millionaire Businessman. Who he is going to have as a coach of his team. It isn't going to happen.

The whole purpose of the Rooney rule is to give minority coaches(not just Blacks) the opportunity to interview for the position. This gives the minority candidate the experience of going through the interview process. It gives teams the opportunity to see other candidates for positions of either head coach or some other coaching job.

But the bottom line is that the team is going to hire whomever they want to hire. That has never changed.
I agree the rule doesn't force anybody to hire a non-White coach. It simply gives non-White coaches a chance. The reason for the rule was that coaching faternity tends to work in a "Good Ole Boy" network. People tend to hire who they feel comfortable with. In the past that locked out of lot of non-White coaches from opportunity to get coaching jobs.
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:19 PM
 
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Wouldn't be the first - there have been a couple of others - including a guy who was born in Mexico and a dirty raider who helped drive my favorite franchise into the ground...............
That would be Tom Flores.
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Old 01-10-2011, 02:06 PM
 
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or Tom Fears (born in Mexico)

You're right on the dirty raider though.........
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