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View Poll Results: Who will take everything?
New England Patriots 15 46.88%
Pittsburgh Steelers 6 18.75%
Indianapolis Colts 0 0%
Kansas City Chiefs 0 0%
Baltimore Ravens 1 3.13%
New York Jets 0 0%
Atlanta Falcons 4 12.50%
Chicago Bears 1 3.13%
Philadelphia Eagles 1 3.13%
Seattle Seahawks 1 3.13%
New Orleans Saints 0 0%
Green Bay Packers 3 9.38%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-14-2011, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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C'mon....don't paint eveveryone w/the same brush....

Look, I can dream and hope the Jets beat the Pats....I will be on the couch w/my Jets Jersey hoping, but I'm a realist.......we are in a tough tough spot.....

Our only shot is to keep Brady off the field as much as possible. If we move the chains and take time off the clock (and get TD's in the redzone/NOT fg's...we'll have a shot). Rex will also have to scheme on D to get a pass rush...our 3 guys upfront will not put major pressure on him by themselves...they just aren't good enough.

There's a reason why we and the Seahawks are at or near double digits in the spread......
Agree with all that you said, control the clock and keeping Brady off the field is the only shot. Damien Woody being out doesn't bode well for you all though, and should have an impact on the Jets' offense. We'll just have to see what happens. I'll be on the couch with a jersey(not the same one as you) on as well, along with some nice beverages!
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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To the realistic Jets fan I could see your points but if you read my statements again I think you misinterpreted certain things. I said the Jets are healthier now than they were against the Colts last week. Sanchez was injured and so they had to rely on the running game for most of the game and it worked. Aside from Woody now, those injuries were still there last week.

Second off I gave the advantage in TE's to the Pats... slightly. People buy into the Pats so much strictly because of Brady but notice if you're looking at TALENT level their TE's are just average. And there's games where they completely disappear both Hernandez and Gronkowski, Crumpler wasn't as big this year. People need to see this team for what it is and stop buying into all the hype.

This team is an over-performing team with a weak defensive line and is now starting to get a decent running game going. To the realistic fan I don't think you give your team enough credit. There's one thing to be a realist and theres another to be pessimistic. I see both sides (Pats and Jets) for what they are. I've seen the Pats play inspired ball the past few weeks but you must admit (like someone else posted before) that this is the worst team they have put into the playoffs. A bunch of rookies at the defensive end, no legitimate wide-outs (welker is an across the middle threat).

You really don't think that the Jets are gonna adjust their game to cover the middle? Haven't they been watching the same football we've been watching?

If we're talking about best teams talent wise in the playoffs right now strictly the players, it'd go like this:

1) Falcons
2) Packers (now with a running game and a healthy Finley)
3) Jets (Sanchez lowers them to 3 because of his inconsistency at times, but go across the board and look at this team up and down, they're stacked even with a couple of injuries)
4) Steelers
5) Ravens
6) Pats
7) Bears
8) Seahawks

Again, Belichicks coaching makes this team look superb but look at the names and what they have proven so far in their careers. This is a testament to the coach and not to how talented this team really is. Jets will exploit the weaknesses and JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH THE COLTS, will milk the time and keep the ball away from Brady.

Its almost as if people didn't even see the Colts game last week... That is their gameplan majority of the time. Run first, pass later, milk the clock. Saying that they need to do that now, is admitting that you haven't watched a single jets game this season and have no idea what their strengths are. Now, granted I did say it will be close, mainly because Brady will play out of his mind as usual and make this team look good... but although I could see this game going either way, I like the Jets in this match-up.

But again, to each his own...
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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I don't care who wins as long as it's not the Steelers. Worst fans ever.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Weehawken, NJ
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To the realistic Jets fan I could see your points but if you read my statements again I think you misinterpreted certain things. I said the Jets are healthier now than they were against the Colts last week. Sanchez was injured and so they had to rely on the running game for most of the game and it worked. Aside from Woody now, those injuries were still there last week.

Second off I gave the advantage in TE's to the Pats... slightly. People buy into the Pats so much strictly because of Brady but notice if you're looking at TALENT level their TE's are just average. And there's games where they completely disappear both Hernandez and Gronkowski, Crumpler wasn't as big this year. People need to see this team for what it is and stop buying into all the hype.

This team is an over-performing team with a weak defensive line and is now starting to get a decent running game going. To the realistic fan I don't think you give your team enough credit. There's one thing to be a realist and theres another to be pessimistic. I see both sides (Pats and Jets) for what they are. I've seen the Pats play inspired ball the past few weeks but you must admit (like someone else posted before) that this is the worst team they have put into the playoffs. A bunch of rookies at the defensive end, no legitimate wide-outs (welker is an across the middle threat).

You really don't think that the Jets are gonna adjust their game to cover the middle? Haven't they been watching the same football we've been watching?

If we're talking about best teams talent wise in the playoffs right now strictly the players, it'd go like this:

1) Falcons
2) Packers (now with a running game and a healthy Finley)
3) Jets (Sanchez lowers them to 3 because of his inconsistency at times, but go across the board and look at this team up and down, they're stacked even with a couple of injuries)
4) Steelers
5) Ravens
6) Pats
7) Bears
8) Seahawks

Again, Belichicks coaching makes this team look superb but look at the names and what they have proven so far in their careers. This is a testament to the coach and not to how talented this team really is. Jets will exploit the weaknesses and JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH THE COLTS, will milk the time and keep the ball away from Brady.

Its almost as if people didn't even see the Colts game last week... That is their gameplan majority of the time. Run first, pass later, milk the clock. Saying that they need to do that now, is admitting that you haven't watched a single jets game this season and have no idea what their strengths are. Now, granted I did say it will be close, mainly because Brady will play out of his mind as usual and make this team look good... but although I could see this game going either way, I like the Jets in this match-up.

But again, to each his own...

I am happy somebody else sees it too, I was beginning to think I was the only one. If you go down the line and compare Talent, like Anon1 said, I believe the Pats are the least talented of all the remaining AFC teams. Tom Brady and their coaching staff has been the difference in the regular season match-ups, but that alone will not cut it in the playoffs. I agree, people get caught up in the hype. Realistically they have no running game, a faulty D, mediocre receivers, and TEs that are okay. Bellicheck coached circles around a lot of coaches this year, but others will catch on and keep the games close until crunch time when TALENT takes over. I want to see what happens when it comes down the stretch in one of their games and they need their D to hold up and keep a lead.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Weehawken, NJ
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I don't care who wins as long as it's not the Steelers. Worst fans ever.

Where did you get that from? That is the first time I ever heard anyone say that we are the worst fans ever. Actually I've heard we were the best fans to be around from plenty of other teams fans. We don't hit people with snowballs or pour beer on people, or trow trash on the field because our team is losing. Sometimes I wish we would though, lol. Like when Ben got head butted, I wish someone would have poured beer on him as he was being escorted off the field.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: BP
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Where did you get that from? That is the first time I ever heard anyone say that we are the worst fans ever. Actually I've heard we were the best fans to be around from plenty of other teams fans.
I was wondering too. Hockyluvr, are you from Philly?
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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I am happy somebody else sees it too, I was beginning to think I was the only one. If you go down the line and compare Talent, like Anon1 said, I believe the Pats are the least talented of all the remaining AFC teams. Tom Brady and their coaching staff has been the difference in the regular season match-ups, but that alone will not cut it in the playoffs. I agree, people get caught up in the hype. Realistically they have no running game, a faulty D, mediocre receivers, and TEs that are okay. Bellicheck coached circles around a lot of coaches this year, but others will catch on and keep the games close until crunch time when TALENT takes over. I want to see what happens when it comes down the stretch in one of their games and they need their D to hold up and keep a lead.
Obviously I disagree with almost all you have stated. The Pats have a 1,000 yard rusher with the Law Firm, a defense that has done nothing but improve with each week, smart receivers that run great routes, and TEs that are the best tandem in the playoffs. I just don't see how the Jets can have a FOOTHOLD on this game.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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At patsfan20 thats a very good simplification of your team. The truth however is that your team is not that nice. It just has a fantastic coach and a good QB that follows what his coach tells him.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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At patsfan20 thats a very good simplification of your team. The truth however is that your team is not that nice. It just has a fantastic coach and a good QB that follows what his coach tells him.
"Good QB".........surely you jest! You meant GREAT!!

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Old 01-14-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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Calm down... while its obvious to see why you are going for the Pats (no reasoning just blind fan loyalty, cant blame you, same here though I follow both teams very well) what I mean by that statement is that similar to the people on his team he has been transformed by his coach into what you see now. You cannot tell me that he would have become the name he is now if it weren't for Belichick.

When I said good QB i meant in the sense on his own. He is a good QB and Belichick obviously in part makes him the Quarterback he is now. This is why I am not sold on the Pats unlike all the other folks that just look at a 14-2 record and see that the last few games were as perfect as the Pats could have played given their team and assume they are the best team in football...
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