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Personally I agree with the Bengals management. He signed a contract and should be a man of his word whether they are in first place or last. I'm tired of players bullying their teams and forcing a trade to most likely a better team.
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Originally Posted by Lancet71
Personally I agree with the Bengals management. He signed a contract and should be a man of his word whether they are in first place or last. I'm tired of players bullying their teams and forcing a trade to most likely a better team.
Teams release and trade their players all the time while they have contracts. Brown's sticking to your contract argument is stupid unless he has never traded or cut a player.
This thing about principle is a terrible business decision. Letting him sit at home and not getting anything for him that could help the rebuilding process is just dumb.
Teams release and trade their players all the time while they have contracts. Brown's sticking to your contract argument is stupid unless he has never traded or cut a player.
This thing about principle is a terrible business decision. Letting him sit at home and not getting anything for him that could help the rebuilding process is just dumb.
Teams usually release players when their production is horrible or has been a major dropoff from their previous showings. They are usually released when it effects the cap. In this instance they are still paid and can sign elsewhere.
As a Bengal fan, I'm torn on this issue. The Bengals are a terribly run organization and it all starts with Mike Brown. He is the worst owner in sports. The problem is, he may be the smartest owner in sports. While Carson Palmer is acting like a baby, he's not the first Bengal star to complain about playing for the team. Heck, he's not the 2nd, 3rd or 4th even. Ever since his father Paul Brown died, the Bengals organization has been a laughingstock when at one time, it was very respected and had much more success.
I harbor no ill will towards Palmer. I think he isn't as good as he thinks he is (he should have gotten surgery on his elbow but didn't and now thinks he can still zip the ball in between defenders when he can't) but he's still a solid QB who give the Bengals their best chance to win. Mike Brown stated that Palmer needs to honor his contract and play for the Bengals or retire and that he won't reward him by not honoring his contract. Well Mikey, how about honoring your contract with Bengal fans by producing a consistent winner and investing money into bringing talent (players, coaches, GM, management) to the Bengals?? I'm sure you want to win, but you only will do it if it has a positive effect on your profit line. 2 winning seasons in the past 19 is unacceptable and had you been CEO of a publicly traded company, you would have been fired long ago.
I think this is different from a normal hold out situation. Normally you have both sides losing out. The team wants the player for their production and the player wants the team for their money. So both sides "lose" as long as the hold out continues.
When a player is willing to just walk away from the money all together it is really only the team losing out. And lets be honest, how often is a player willing to actually retire to force his point? Pretty much never. So I don't think this opens up the "flood gates" for other players to do the same thing unless they are all willing to literally walk away from football.
the bengals are a poor organization but it was o.k. to play for them when they offered him all that money and signing bonus, they've been bad for a long time so Palmer knew what he was getting into when he signed thru 2014. He didn't have to sign that contract, it wasn't his first one out of college.
he didn't mind playing for the Bengals when he got the big signing bonus.
and b/c everyone knows he's not happy and wants out the Bengals are in a tough situation to try and get fair market value for him.
the Bengals stood by him while he spent all that time on the IR, getting paid all the while, so I have no sympathy for him.
I haven't paid that close of attention, but what is the positive for the Bengals to just let him retire, the fact they win the pissing contest? Is that really more important then getting some value out of it?
As a Steelers fan I like it. Just means they get nothing in return and probably a worse team for it.
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