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Old 09-30-2014, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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The guys on ESPN were saying after the game the Pats are a bad team, not just that they played a bad game. Are they really falling apart that quickly? This is the first game of theirs I've watched this year.

This isn't a sudden thing, it's been apparent to anyone that watches very closely that they have been regressing for the past two years. Last year, Brady put this team on his shoulders and got them to the AFC Title game. This year, Belichick gets them some new players on defense...but what does he do for the offense that struggled last year? Gets them Brandon LaFell....wow. And trades away an offensive captain and the leader of their O-line. The Pats have leaned on Brady to cover up their issues for a long time and it is just becoming too much. I said it a few week ago in this thread, BB needs to stop being the GM.

Need more proof of this? He has drafted one successful WR since 2002, Julian Edelman, a 7th round pick that played QB in college.

Some of the DBs he has drafted:

Brandon Meriweather - 1st Round
Terrence Wheatley - 2nd Round
Ras I Dowling - 2nd Round
Devin McCourty - 1st Round(still with the team but moved to Safety after failing at CB).
Tavon Wilson - 2nd Round(could have been had in the 5th round)
Logan Ryan - 2nd Round(jury still out)
Patrick Chung - 2nd Round(back for a 2nd stint, after getting cut by the Eagles)

The WRs he has drafted, most of these guys are out of the NFL, I think Brandon Tate is the only one left on another team:

Bethel Johnson
PK Sam
Chad Jackson
Brandon Tate
Taylor Price
Aaron Dobson (inactive last night, 2nd Round pick last year)
Josh Boyce


They had not drafted an O-lineman since 2010 I believe, and this year they waited until the 4th round to take one. I don;t think Garrapolo is a bad player, but going QB in the 2nd round when you have far more glaring needs is just insane(especially when Ryan Mallett was under contract for another year).


Looking at everything I have posted above, Belichick flat out has to be called out on this. He yammers on about how all of the players need to do better and have accountability while shrinking away from it himself. The players need to be put in better positions to succeed and he is failing at that with his poor drafting for the nearly 10 years now. Oh but he got Darrelle Revis! Not sure why, since he is just going to waste him in a zone scheme....but hey they got him!

#End Rant
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:18 PM
 
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Well, it's hard to feel bad for them.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:43 PM
 
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Well, it's hard to feel bad for them.
I don't think anyone is saying people should feel bad for the Patriots. Did people feel bad when Seattle smacked Denver around and completely embarrassed them in the biggest game of the year last season? This is professional sports.


That's a nice assessment Fish Taco. On the other end, look at what a team like the Seahawks have done via the draft. They built the core of their top 10 defense through the draft over a few years. They grabbed guys like Richard Sherman, Walter Thurmond, Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor, Bobby Wagner etc.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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MNFwas only the tip of the iceberg in the decline of a once proud Patriots team. Brady seems to be only a shell of his former years of greatness...maybe it time to hang them up before any more embarrassing games like Monday past. I only hope Brady does move around to different teams like Brett Favre did and make a fool out of himself.
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Old 10-02-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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MNFwas only the tip of the iceberg in the decline of a once proud Patriots team. Brady seems to be only a shell of his former years of greatness...maybe it time to hang them up before any more embarrassing games like Monday past. I only hope Brady does move around to different teams like Brett Favre did and make a fool out of himself.

Oh please, Brady is making a fool of himself? Name a QB in the NFL that you could put on this team and have better results. The thought of Manning trying to survive behind this O-Line or Rodgers trying to squeeze throws to these WRs that can't separate to save their lives is laughable.
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Old 10-02-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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Oh please, Brady is making a fool of himself? Name a QB in the NFL that you could put on this team and have better results. The thought of Manning trying to survive behind this O-Line or Rodgers trying to squeeze throws to these WRs that can't separate to save their lives is laughable.
Thank you! I love it when people like to compare Brady to Manning or other QBs my question is usually that, who would these other QBs do with the little that Brady has. Brady has done more with less than any other QB out there. This year he has a poor O-line and barely anyone to throw the ball to, only a 60% at best Gronk and Julian Edleman. Plus the running game isn't much and defense can't get it together. It's hard to win games in this situation.
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Old 10-05-2014, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Much better play by the O-line tonight....they all played quite determined on both sides of the ball. They ran it very well, and the D continues to get turnovers. The sky seems to not have fallen onto Foxboro. Guess we can all R-E-L-A-X for at least a week.
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Old 10-06-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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MNFwas only the tip of the iceberg in the decline of a once proud Patriots team. Brady seems to be only a shell of his former years of greatness...maybe it time to hang them up before any more embarrassing games like Monday past. I only hope Brady does move around to different teams like Brett Favre did and make a fool out of himself.

I am really loving this quote today....LOL.

I do stand by my earlier comments that the Pats drafting needs to improve...they played an inspired game last night, but Brady won't be here forever and the next QB, whether that be Jimmy G or somebody else will not likely be able to carry this team like he has over the years.


But enough of that rubbish....what a win! I hope they come out with that kind of energy and fire for every game from here on out! Stick with this O-Line combination and let them gel. Let Revis shadow the other team's number 1, and now that Browner is back, let him rough up the number 2 with Safety support deep. Keep pounding the rock and running play-action and this team will go far this year.
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Old 10-07-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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I've said this before several times on the fb forum and will say it here. As long as Bill Belichick is coaching and Tom Brady is quarterbacking the Patriots are never out of the division picture
Over the last few years, I've said this several times on the this thread, and after last nights performance this sentence still goes. Reports of Brady's demise has been greatly exaggerated .
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Old 10-07-2014, 10:42 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Over the last few years, I've said this several times on the this thread, and after last nights performance this sentence still goes. Reports of Brady's demise has been greatly exaggerated .


I agree 100%, there was no way the Pats was going to lose a nationally televised game in front of their fans after getting blown out the previous week. Bengals had no chance and it was evident in the first Pats offensive drive.
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