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Old 11-16-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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It wasn't pretty, but it was a win. A couple of big mistakes (that hold on Blount's TD and a bad throw by Brady that was picked) but they managed to overcome them and get a big road win.

If we can take care of Buffalo on Monday Night, the division should be ours. The Patriots have a good shot of going 13-3 this year.
Good shot at 13-3????

Good grief man, where do you see them losing??

Belichick and Brady teams just don't lose after Thanksgiving, ever, not the good ones anyway...and this is a good one

While injuries may yet derail this team I would be shocked if they lose more than 1 game the rest of the way....

Bills aren't winning in Foxboro, they couldn't do it in Buffalo, they are not doing it on the road...

Denver is a train wreck, Peyton is the worst QB in football and probably won't be playing that game anyway, they have no run game and I'm sorry but while that Denver D is good, it isn't as good as people are making it out to be....if Indy and KC could score on them, Pats definitely will even without Edelman..Pats will be favored in that game...

Eagles? At home? Again, that team is a joke....Chip Kelly is not long for the NFL

Texans? Titans? AFC South teams....nuff said, not a prayer...

That leaves 2 road games against the Jets and Dolphins....Jets is the one potential loss I see, especially if they are still in the Wild Card hunt, if not....

Dolphins were exposed once already by the Pats and likely won't be playing for anything

I say 15-1
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Old 11-16-2015, 06:52 PM
 
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Belichick and Brady teams just don't lose after Thanksgiving, ever
Did you watch the Packers vs Patriots game last year after Thanksgiving?
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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I don't think the Patriots will go undefeated. And I can't pick which game(s) they may lose, but I suspect two.

At this point I will attribute potential losses due to some injuries in very key areas already with who knows what else down the line. Lewis and Edelman are huge, and what illness/virus does Collins have? Edelman had over 100 more targets than Gronk before his injury. Amendola can be an Edelman look alike, maybe 75% as effective. We can only hope James White and Boulden can possibly combine to do maybe 50% of what Lewis was doing. The O-Line at some point will not hold up for periods of time with all the injuries and some team may figure out how to get to Brady enough times to affect the offense that is missing two key components. And now other teams can key more on Gronk without Edelman and Lewis in the game, potentially taking yet another target away.

But truthfully, who cares about an undefeated season? Sure, would love homefield advantage throughout, and the Bengals need to slip up this 2nd half of the season somehow. But unless a collapse like the current Packers and Broncos are in the mist of happens to us, I can't see us losing the 4 game advantage in the division. With Denver potentially losing more, even if the Bengals have the best record we'd be in 2nd.
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Old 11-17-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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and what illness/virus does Collins have?

I've heard two rumours, one mono, the other mrsa. MRSA would be horrific.

But I agree, too many key injuries to go undefeated and I now have no hopes for a SB.
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Old 11-17-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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I don't think the Patriots will go undefeated. And I can't pick which game(s) they may lose, but I suspect two.

At this point I will attribute potential losses due to some injuries in very key areas already with who knows what else down the line. Lewis and Edelman are huge, and what illness/virus does Collins have? Edelman had over 100 more targets than Gronk before his injury. Amendola can be an Edelman look alike, maybe 75% as effective. We can only hope James White and Boulden can possibly combine to do maybe 50% of what Lewis was doing. The O-Line at some point will not hold up for periods of time with all the injuries and some team may figure out how to get to Brady enough times to affect the offense that is missing two key components. And now other teams can key more on Gronk without Edelman and Lewis in the game, potentially taking yet another target away.

But truthfully, who cares about an undefeated season? Sure, would love homefield advantage throughout, and the Bengals need to slip up this 2nd half of the season somehow. But unless a collapse like the current Packers and Broncos are in the mist of happens to us, I can't see us losing the 4 game advantage in the division. With Denver potentially losing more, even if the Bengals have the best record we'd be in 2nd.
The Bengals will likely lose to Arizona. And possibly to Pittsburgh and/or Denver. I don't think the #1 seed is in jeopardy for the Pats. I agree they will lose 1-2 games though. I would have picked Denver, but who knows what's going on with Manning. Maybe Philly and/or NYJ.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:25 PM
 
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I've heard two rumours, one mono, the other mrsa. MRSA would be horrific.

But I agree, too many key injuries to go undefeated and I now have no hopes for a SB.
No hopes for a SB???

Wow...

Way to hang in there as a fan of the best team in the NFL....

Guess they should just forfeit the rest of the season

No team is perfect, even with the injuries Pats are still the best team in the AFC and the only real threat in the NFC is the Panthers.....

As for Collins, MRSA isn't a virus and it isn't "horrific"....mono is worse for a football player than MRSA which doesn't make a healthy person sick enough to miss football and would mean a skin infection not a systemic illness
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:14 PM
 
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No hopes for a SB???

Wow...

Way to hang in there as a fan of the best team in the NFL....

Guess they should just forfeit the rest of the season

No team is perfect, even with the injuries Pats are still the best team in the AFC and the only real threat in the NFC is the Panthers.....

As for Collins, MRSA isn't a virus and it isn't "horrific"....mono is worse for a football player than MRSA which doesn't make a healthy person sick enough to miss football and would mean a skin infection not a systemic illness

Did I say they should forfeit the season? No.

MRSA does cause people to miss games and actually has ended careers. Multiple times. I never said it was a virus. It is not just a run of the mill skin infection. It is worse than mono in this situation.

Tell the people that lost their careers and ended up in ICUs to MRSA that it isn't horrific.
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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How many meaningful games have the Packers won after Thanksgiving lately???

R-E-L-A-X you won't have to sweat out many post season games this season...one and done....
At least 2 but this is the pats thread so let's stick to them. I just corrected your point that the pats have never lost a game after thanksgiving. I only had to go back to last season to show you that they can lose in that time frame. It doesn't matter who the opponent was or will be.
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Old 11-18-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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Did I say they should forfeit the season? No.

MRSA does cause people to miss games and actually has ended careers. Multiple times. I never said it was a virus. It is not just a run of the mill skin infection. It is worse than mono in this situation.

Tell the people that lost their careers and ended up in ICUs to MRSA that it isn't horrific.
You said, and I quote, "I now have no hopes for a SB"

A 9-0 team, consensus #1 team in the NFL since week 1, and you have no hopes for a SB

As for the rumors you have heard regarding Jamie Collins

1. Mono highly unlikely, mean age of typical patient is 16 and if he DID have Mono average return to contact sports is 2-6 months due to risk of splenic injury. Adults almost never contract the disease because almost all of us have been exposed at some point and developed immunity.

2. MRSA is ubiquitous in locker rooms everywhere in this country and 99% of the time it is "just a skin infection" and almost no one gets systemically ill or misses time from sports. Staph skin infections have been around forever, MRSA is only worse because of its resistance to common antibiotics but not all antibiotics...

So Mono would be worse than MRSA in this situation....

The far more likely choice is C: None of the above

I highly doubt Collins had either condition as reports have him likely to return this week...
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Old 11-18-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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At least 2 but this is the pats thread so let's stick to them. I just corrected your point that the pats have never lost a game after thanksgiving. I only had to go back to last season to show you that they can lose in that time frame. It doesn't matter who the opponent was or will be.
Ok, Mr Literal....

I was pointing out to a fellow Pats fan that the likelihood of the Pats losing 3 games out of the final 7 is highly unlikely...

The Patriots are 52-9 in games played after Thanksgiving since Belichick took over as coach....best record in NFL history...9 losses in 15 years, unlikely a team as good as this one is losing 3 after Thanksgiving

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