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Old 01-25-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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No doubt that the Bronco defense was awesome today. Brady looked silly on just about every play, and we know it is not him. Denver just put so much pressure on him that there was no time for plays to develop--and maybe they never would have the way the Denver secondary played as well.


But...New England lost the game on poor play calling. When you need two scores, you take what you can get. They had an easy field goal, and opted to go for it on fourth and one with a half dozen minutes left to play.


Strike one.


Then, when they were in the same position a minute or two later, they tried the same thing.


Strike two.


And then, with just seconds to play, had they kicked the firs two field goals when they had them within easy reach, they could have kicked the game winner, but, of course, having made poor play calls on the last two opportunities, they had to go for the touchdown. That was a great catch. But too little, too late.


And of course, with Denver's defense playing so well, they weren't about to give New England two scores on back to back plays.


Strike three.


This one is on Belichick. He called it poorly....."all in" when he could have taken the conservative route and won the game. Given the way Denver was holding New England back, it was an obvious call to kick the field goals. It was almost like Belichick was getting paid to throw the game.


Denver defense against Carolina offense. Gonna be one hell of a game.
Its very easy now to second guess taking the FG with 6 minutes left.

I firmly was in Belicheck's camp by his decision. Yes, you could've gotten the FG, but you still would need to get the ball back and get a touchdown.

That decision did not cost them the game.

It seemed the Patriots were not comfortable from the beginning.

I don't understand why they didn't 'defer' the kickoff...strange.
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Old 01-25-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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Saying he was trying to throw the game is over the top, but they didn't need a TD. They would have needed 2 more FGs. They could have had 2 of the 3 FGs with 2-3 minutes left. Then they could have driven down the field the final time and won 21-20. When the defenses are playing that well, you don't leave points on the field.
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Old 01-25-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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Saying he was trying to throw the game is over the top, but they didn't need a TD. They would have needed 2 more FGs. They could have had 2 of the 3 FGs with 2-3 minutes left. Then they could have driven down the field the final time and won 21-20. When the defenses are playing that well, you don't leave points on the field.
you are saying they would've gotten 3 field goals in 6 minutes???

For that to happen, ALOT of things would have to happen right.

I could see the argument for a FG w/6 minutes left, but they would definitely be going for a touchdown after that....

Gostkowski really hurt them this game....who knew?
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Old 01-25-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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Maybe Manning would have gone down the field, or at least chewed up the clock, if he'd had to. But they forced a 3 and out out of Denver. Twice. I think they had 3 timeouts plus the 2 minute warning as well. Remember that Denver's offense did very little in the 2nd half.

Also, to get to the 35-38 for a chance at a long game-winning field goal, you don't need a full 2 minutes to work with. Get the ball back with 30-40 seconds left and you at least have a chance.
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Old 01-25-2016, 11:38 AM
 
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Its very easy now to second guess taking the FG with 6 minutes left.

I firmly was in Belicheck's camp by his decision. Yes, you could've gotten the FG, but you still would need to get the ball back and get a touchdown.

That decision did not cost them the game.

It seemed the Patriots were not comfortable from the beginning.

I don't understand why they didn't 'defer' the kickoff...strange.
The only thing I can come up with in regards to taking the first half kick was to set a tone. I believe they were threatened by the defense, and wanted to go out and grab the lead first. Obviously no one knew how mismatched our O-Line would be to their defense.

Secondly, since "maybe" they believed Manning and the offense wasn't as much of a threat (which in fact they weren't), this was a chess match of offense. If the belief was to force manning to throw, getting the lead on the first drive was the first pawn move. It failed, but the double/double around the half really didn't hurt them.

At the end of the day I don't think it mattered. Brady had no time to do anything pretty much all game, and only Gronk's heroics even gave them a last gasp chance for OT.

I though they should have kicked the FG IMO. Our D played good enough to believe they'd get the ball back. But geesh, why did Gostowski have to pick yesterday to have his ridiculous point after streak end. I felt so bad for him, as he wanted to take all the blame.
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Old 01-25-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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Heads up Pats fan. You still have arguable the greatest quarterback and coach tandem ever. You will be in the hunt for quite some time.

To be fair.....you guys would have won in New England and you know that. Losing a nail biter, in an away game, to the best defense in the league is nothing to hang your head about. Considering all of the injuries...you folks had a lights out season.
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Old 01-25-2016, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Two Rivers, Wisconsin
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Yep, they did, gave it their all, right down to the very end. Impressive with the injuries Pats had, they will be back next year, no doubt.
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Old 01-25-2016, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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Brady got hit 20 times yesterday and walked away with no injuries. Still has years left in him. As for Belechik....Sith Lords never retire.....j/k!
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Pats just said goodbye to O-line coach DeGuglielmo.....think they should pull Scarnecchia outta retirement.
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:43 AM
 
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Pats just said goodbye to O-line coach DeGuglielmo.....think they should pull Scarnecchia outta retirement.
Doesn't really come as a surprise. The O Line was terrible the entire 2nd half of the season and into the playoffs.
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