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Old 01-20-2019, 09:15 PM
 
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What a game ! Gronk came up huge tonight
From Goat to hero in the span of about two plays.
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:19 PM
 
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If he does, the Patriots aren't going away either as I believe the engine is Bill. Tom is a sure fire hall of famer but I think Beliecheck is what makes the team go.

Case in point: whatever year Brady got injured the first half of the first game and was out the entire year (2009?? 08 maybe??) That team with Matt freaking Cassell finished 11-5. Unfortunately they missed out on a playoff that year because of a tiebreaker, but that's only like the 4th or 5th team that had 11 wins and missed a playoff, so that's bad luck more than anything. And what has Cassell done since leaving New England and that system?? Nothing!
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:27 PM
 
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We will! The way Tom talked after the game to his family, I wonder if he is thinking of retiring after this SB?? Just a feeling.
Not a chance Brady retires if they win...not a chance
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:29 PM
 
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If he does, the Patriots aren't going away either as I believe the engine is Bill. Tom is a sure fire hall of famer but I think Beliecheck is what makes the team go.

Case in point: whatever year Brady got injured the first half of the first game and was out the entire year (2009?? 08 maybe??) That team with Matt freaking Cassell finished 11-5. Unfortunately they missed out on a playoff that year because of a tiebreaker, but that's only like the 4th or 5th team that had 11 wins and missed a playoff, so that's bad luck more than anything. And what has Cassell done since leaving New England and that system?? Nothing!
The team lost 5 more games than the season prior so your case in point really doesnít prove much

Once Brady retires this team fades into mediocrity with or without Belichick
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:44 PM
 
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Not a chance Brady retires if they win...not a chance

I would think he would go out a winner, no?? He wasn't as dominant this season as he'd been in his prior 16, so it's obvious Father Time is catching up to him. With the new crop of QBs in the league it's only a matter of time until he gets bounced in the Wildcard round or Divisional Round, and that could very well happen next year.
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:53 PM
 
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The team lost 5 more games than the season prior so your case in point really doesn’t prove much

Once Brady retires this team fades into mediocrity with or without Belichick
I wouldn’t sell Belicheck that short. You probably don’t remember what mediocrity is. I wouldn’t bet against BB taking a bradyless Pats team to a couple AFC title games at the least. Say two in five years. But at his age I’m just not sure he’ll want to stick around for five years after Brady retires whenever that even is.

I can’t remember a team that has been able to change their colors so to speak as much as the Patriots do year to year and week to week. And the defense is seldom really bad. And just like the offense they tend to get better late in the season. It’s not all Brady. Brady has had his clutch moments this year but even more the Pats have been an absolutely dominant running team this year. Got to give the HC some credit for that.
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:57 PM
 
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What a game. After a strange off season and an un-Patriot like march to an 11-5 season, Brady & Belichick will be playing in their 9th Super Bowl as a Coach/QB team, and representing the AFC 50% of the the time in this dynasty, 9 times. The NFL will NEVER see any run from a team like this again, ever. Brady showed his greatness with two key drives late in the 4th and in OT. He's now pouring the 2nd layer of concrete on his legacy as GOAT.
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:59 PM
 
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I would think he would go out a winner, no?? He wasn't as dominant this season as he'd been in his prior 16, so it's obvious Father Time is catching up to him. With the new crop of QBs in the league it's only a matter of time until he gets bounced in the Wildcard round or Divisional Round, and that could very well happen next year.
Heís not going to go out until the Patriots are losers. As long as BB is there with him it could be a very longtime until the Pats are losers. Or a couple of the other teams in the division could catch fire with a young QB and keep the Patriots out of the playoffs for day two straight seasons. I donít think Brady cares is his numbers are pedestrian to the league leaders if he is going to conference title games every year.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:03 PM
 
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I would think he would go out a winner, no?? He wasn't as dominant this season as he'd been in his prior 16, so it's obvious Father Time is catching up to him. With the new crop of QBs in the league it's only a matter of time until he gets bounced in the Wildcard round or Divisional Round, and that could very well happen next year.
1. There isn't a QB on the Pats roster to lead them next year, Brady wouldn't leave the Kraft's with no successor in place.

2. Brady's entire post NFL playing days plan, the TB12 Method is predicated on showing that elite athletes can perform well into their 40's with his own experience as the prime example. If he fails to continue playing past this season his entire post playing retirement plan for his life goes poof.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:15 PM
 
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I wouldnít sell Belicheck that short. You probably donít remember what mediocrity is. I wouldnít bet against BB taking a bradyless Pats team to a couple AFC title games at the least. Say two in five years. But at his age Iím just not sure heíll want to stick around for five years after Brady retires whenever that even is.

I canít remember a team that has been able to change their colors so to speak as much as the Patriots do year to year and week to week. And the defense is seldom really bad. And just like the offense they tend to get better late in the season. Itís not all Brady. Brady has had his clutch moments this year but even more the Pats have been an absolutely dominant running team this year. Got to give the HC some credit for that.
You really think ANY other QB makes the clutch drives, the clutch 3rd down throws? Brady now has 12 game winning drives in the 4th quarter or overtime in the PLAYOFFS

The TD drives after TD drives even after earlier miscues??

Aaron Rodgers has 2 game winning drives in the playoffs....Brady has 12...

Brady now has TWICE as many game winning drives as the next closest QB in playoff history

Brady is the most clutch QB of all time and there won't be annual trips to the AFC Championship Games after he retires...

How many AFC Championship trips for the Bills since Kelly retired??

I first sat in the Schaefer Stadium cold metal bleachers when Grogan was QB and lived through the Hugh Millen years, I remember very well what mediocrity felt like and when Brady goes it will return...
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