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Old 06-19-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: 3219'03.7"N 10643'55.9"W
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I guess my criteria for HOF is very, very high. Barry Sanders could dominate a game, even with a mediocre offensive line in front of him, of which, many times, there were 4 WRs in sets in Wayne Fontes offensive scheme. In contrast, Tomlinson was the beneficiary of Martyball and Norv Turner's very RB-friendly system. Similar to Shanahan's (read: Alex Gibbs) zone blocking scheme, which utilized downfield offensive line blocking tactics which similarly elevated the likes of Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary and Clinton Portis.

Take a look at some highlight reels of Barry Sanders, or for the power/speed combo, Jim Brown or Walter Payton, then look at a similar Tomlinson highlight reel, and notice how instrumental Tomlinson's offensive line plus his downfield WR blocking assisted many of his longest runs.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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I agree about Dickerson and Payton but I have never bought into Smith.

And yes I have Allen way too high. I would replace Allen with Payton and move Allen down the list. It is hard to put these lists together.

You don't have to "buy" into Smith... No one would argue he was the greatest back ever.

But whatever class he is in, LT is not in it...

As great as those Cowboys teams were. Emmit is the one that lead them. He put the team on his back when it counted. LT was just not that kind of player.
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I will have to respectfully disagree. LT did benefit having Lo Neal as a fullback but other than that he was extremely dynamic. I can't put Curtis Martin in the same league as LT. I don't even know how Martin got into the HOF. Here is my top 5 RB of all time.

1) Barry Sanders
2) Jim Brown
3) Marcus Allen
4) Marshall Faulk
5) LT

To me LT and Faulk are interchangeable because they were basically the same type of back.

Eh, I think Faulk was a bit faster and more dynamic, while Tomlinson was very much more of a "bulldozer".
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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LT is a first ballot HOF period!(and this is coming from a Raiders fan)
Let's Look at some of Lt's Numbers

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18,456 -- Career yards from scrimmage, No. 5 all-time behind Jerry Rice (23,540), Emmitt Smith (21,579), Walter Payton (21,264) and Marshall Faulk (19,154).
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145 -- Career rushing touchdowns, No. 2 all time behind Emmitt Smith (164).[LEFT]




Notice how when Norv Turner took over his carries started to decrease!

LaDainian Tomlinson Stats - ESPN
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Old 06-23-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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good riddance....
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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I will have to respectfully disagree. LT did benefit having Lo Neal as a fullback but other than that he was extremely dynamic. I can't put Curtis Martin in the same league as LT. I don't even know how Martin got into the HOF. Here is my top 5 RB of all time.

1) Barry Sanders
2) Jim Brown
3) Marcus Allen
4) Marshall Faulk
5) LT

To me LT and Faulk are interchangeable because they were basically the same type of back.
The only season Curtis Martin had under 1,000 yards was in his final season when he had 735. Now sit down and think about that in terms of dependability and durability over an 11 year career. He also averaged 4 yards a pop and had over 400 career receptions. Simply put he is one of the best all-purpose backs that every played. Not the flashiest guy, but he just kept cranking out consistent performances.

That's HOF worthy.
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:59 AM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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I think he still had a few more good yrs left in him. Am i right or wrong ? I did like his running style. Best of luck to him.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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I think he still had a few more good yrs left in him. Am i right or wrong ? I did like his running style. Best of luck to him.
You are right, he does have a few years left in him but I think he retired early for the sake of his health, I can not blame him, I would have done the same
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It's futile to compare anyone to Barry Sanders. The Hall of Fame is for legends and great players. One does not have to be both.

LT is a Hall of Fame caliber player. Anyone who says otherwise is nuts or just looking to rock the boat.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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I don't even know how Martin got into the HOF. .
here is how fool:
  • 4th all-time with 14,101 rushing yards
  • 12th all-time in rushing TDs with 90
  • 10th all-time in all-purpose with 17,430 yards.
  • 3rd in the history of the NFL in touches with 4,002, only behind Walter Payton and Emmitt Smith, and had 8 seasons with over 300 carries, which is tied for 2nd all-time.
  • He made All-Pro five times and five Pro Bowls.
  • And he is only one of two players (the other is Barry Sanders) to start his career with 10 consecutive 1,000-yard seasons.
He had a streak of 119 straight games played which is 7.5 seasons without missing a game due to injury (and there were plenty of times he played very banged up).

As for LT, to me he is a first ballot guy. Not winning a SB doen't take away anything in my eyes.
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