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Old 09-25-2012, 01:51 AM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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I'm not so sure they didn't get it right. Watch the replay from the different angles. Looks pretty clearly like a tied possession and that is a TD.

Also, Jennings screwed up. Why didn't he bat it down like he is supposed to do? Just trying to get the INT for his stats.

Why isn't anyone talking about the non-PI call on Woodson that also had a huge impact on the game?

For once the Packers get jobbed by the officials, I know it's not something they are used to. I guess these new refs didn't get the memo about favoring the Packers in all close situations.
Because in the Titans vs Lions game... The ball was batted and Titus Young, Sr. Caught it, so the same result. Those announcers said someone should have just caught it.

LOL... What he did was fine. It's just didn't work out.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Looked like a good....make that Great!, catch to me.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:35 AM
 
Location: DMV
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What makes it worse is the fact the idiot in the replay booth (an NFL employee, not a ref) upheld the call even though there was irrefutable evidence otherwise. NFL has zero credibility right now.

The replay official should be fired.
I would like to understand how they define possession. They had the expert on there saying he had possession because he brought the ball close to his body, but if the official looking at that play doesn't consider that as a criteria for possession in that situation then it didn't matter, they weren't going to overturn it. The real issue was the call on the field because it was unlikely they were going to change the call at that point, not if they wanted to walk out of the stadium alive.

Edit:

Check this out. Apparently the review would have never changed the call because they couldn't change the possession.

http://www.neontommy.com/news/2012/0...ltaneous-catch
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:48 AM
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Location: Fredericksburg/Virginia Beach, VA
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The real issue was the call on the field because it was unlikely they were going to change the call at that point, not if they wanted to walk out of the stadium alive.
This brings up another issue. There were two calls on the field. Why did only one have to be overturned? One ref signaled touchdown but as he did so, the other ref was signaling touchback, indicating that the ball belonged to the Packers. I understand that there must be irrefutable evidence to overturn a call on the field, but there were two calls and one of them went completely ignored. Why did the touchdown call matter more than the touchback call? The refs should have been on the same page before making any kind of signal.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Initially it looked like a tie to me. In that case, it goes to the receiver, correct? Upon looking at the replay it would appear that Jennings had it and Tate was able to get his hands around it a bit. I don't think the call on the field was bad but the review is another question. To their credit, there has to be little to no doubt to overturn a ruling. A lot of folks (even the regular refs) may have done the same.

Something needs to be done. The season is already tainted. Even in Goodell is able to get the old crews back, this season will still have a black eye. Regardless of who wins the Super Bowl there will always be endless "what it" and "remember that time..." scenarios played out. I have some sympathy for the current refs. They've been expected to do a job they're not ready for and their getting dumped on. At some point they'll be up to snuff but the learning curve is mighty.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:54 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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As a Seahawk fan, I still would have called that an interception. More obvious and missed was the obvious offensive pass interference when Tate shoved a defender to the ground just before the catch. Most of the second half they missed all kinds of holding by the Packers offense, in response to the 9 sacks in the first half. With decent ref calls the whole game who knows how it would have turned out? The bottom line is that both teams have to live with the calls, right or wrong. It's time for the NFL to get it together and settle with the real refs so this kind of controversy goes away.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Mike & Mike on ESPN had an official from Vegas on the show...he said that last bogus play swung $250,000,000 the other way.

a quarter of a billion dollars was payed out to the wrong people, with 85% of bets placed on the packers on a 3.5 spread....
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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The only thing that will get Goodell's attention would be if sponsors start pulling out, which isn't going to happen, so he's not worried in the least. A few fans turn off their sets, no big deal, a few multi-million dollar sponsors walk, it gets everyone's attention, especially at the networks.

This really needs to get figured out before the post season. Imagine if this were to happen in the Superbowl.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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The striking referees are well compensated now, receiving an avg of $150K for a part time job along with all expense paid, first class travel benefits. The NFL is also providing a 7% annual pay increase as part of their offer. There's plenty of greed in the NFL not the least of which is a part time employee striking because they want their boss to provide a fully funded pension vs. contributing to a 401k program on their own. Ironically enough, the NFL also wants to be able to sit a referee for poor on-field performance which the striking refs are opposed to.

It wouldn't be too tough to find plenty of past posts on this forum from years past of complaints about how bad the referees were and how "something" needs to be done. Where is the outrage from the anti labor types about how these striking refs are getting more than they deserve when us poor working stiffs are getting nothing?

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Old 09-25-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Because in the Titans vs Lions game... The ball was batted and Titus Young, Sr. Caught it, so the same result. Those announcers said someone should have just caught it.

LOL... What he did was fine. It's just didn't work out.
Ditto Jags v Texans from two years ago. If I was coaching - the new technique would be to knock the ball towards the nearest out of bounds area.


David Garrard Hail Mary TD to Mike Thomas..Jaguars vs. Texans 2010 - YouTube
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