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Old 06-19-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: North America
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Geez no stereotyping there.... can't imagine why you don't care.

I have given up on changing the minds of CD bigots. I find it offensive as do many others... so I care.
What stereotyping?

What are you talking about?

You cry your eyes out over the harmless 80 year old name for a sports team but are ignorant of the REAL problems that plague reservations?

Typical.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:18 PM
 
Location: North America
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Geez no stereotyping there.... can't imagine why you don't care.

I have given up on changing the minds of CD bigots. I find it offensive as do many others... so I care.
And you never answered my question:

How does changing the name improve the daily lives of America's original people?
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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And you never answered my question:

How does changing the name improve the daily lives of America's original people?
I doubt he will ever answer that question. Usually people like that dodge tough questions like Mohammad Ali used to dodge punches in the boxing ring.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I doubt he will ever answer that question. Usually people like that dodge tough questions like Mohammad Ali used to dodge punches in the boxing ring.
it's Muhammad Ali, tho I suppose it appropriate you'd mess that up too
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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it's Muhammad Ali, tho I suppose it appropriate you'd mess that up too
Okay grammar police, as the only thing you can correct me on is a misspelled letter. As if that one misspelled letter was going to stop you from knowing the identity of that very famous boxer I was referring to.
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Every poll we've seen is pretty dated. It says 10% find offense, while 90% do not.These are the numbers those who do not think the name should change are using. But just how many of that 90% are merely indifferent as opposed to those who feel very strongly in favor of keeping the name? I suspect it's a pretty big number. So we may have a situation where 10% are very upset and offended, 10% take great pride and would be very upset with a change, and the other 80% fall somewhere in the middle. So let's not automaticlly assume the 10% is such a small number and the other 90% feel equally strong the other way.

And again we are using old numbers. The tide has certainly turned in this country over the past 6 months and I don't just mean Bob Costas. I suspect if the poll was done today it may be very very different than the figures the team and the name supporters are using.

Sincerely,

The New And Much Calmer Dave in MtAiry.

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Old 06-19-2014, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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And you never answered my question:

How does changing the name improve the daily lives of America's original people?
Considering how many problems the Native Americans face every day I don't doubt this is pretty low on their list of things that need fixing. Maybe if they could get out of a poverty cycle where their homes look like they belong in the 3rd world they may have more time and interest in having a united and overwhelming opinion on derogatory sports team names.

But that also doesn't mean the ones who do care should shut up or be instantly dismissed because there are other problems.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Denver
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And you never answered my question:

How does changing the name improve the daily lives of America's original people?
I'm not a Native American so I can't answer how it would help them.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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I never understood the argument that the other problems NAs face should mean this topic should be dismissed. Just seems like a reach, they are not mutually inclusive. You do not need to solve all the NA's problems to have compassion, understanding and want to support a move that would heal some very deep wounds.

Same thing with the whole "they didn't have a problem with the name for the first 80 years" agrument. Again that's like saying we should dismiss the civil rights movement because AA's "didn't seem to have a problem" with persecution for 200 years. It's the exact same mentality and it makes no sense to me. As another poster stated change takes time. Unfortunately
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Okay grammar police, as the only thing you can correct me on is a misspelled letter. As if that one misspelled letter was going to stop you from knowing the identity of that very famous boxer I was referring to.
well considering he's the most famous person that ever lived...whatever, I'm guessing you're probably a Smokin' Joe fan anyway
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