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Old 11-01-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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You are the head coach or kick off return special teams coach.

Would you instruct any of your blockers to take out the kicker (as shown in the video)? Or, would you assume the kicker is such a minor tackling threat that it isn't worth any of your blockers' efforts to worry about the kicker?

Is taking out the kicker in the way shown in the video fairly common in high school, college, or the pros? (I posted in the pro football forum because there was no HS Football forum - same population of football knowledgeable posters probably.)

I could see two reasons to do it: 1) The kicker also happens to be a very good down field tackler (unlikely), and 2) there isn't much time left in the game and it is possible the game may come down to a field goal and this kicker is really good at kicking field goals.


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Old 11-01-2012, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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well he was jogging in a kind of threatening manner, dude should've walloped him again when he got up, if ya ask me.
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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A quick note here. I got a couple reports here as this is not a pro football thread. For now I'll keep it here as not all pro football readers go to the sports forum (and we obviously don't have a high school football subforum) but after comments slow down I'll probably move it. In nearly all cases high school football teams belong in the state forums but for now this thread will stay here.
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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A quick note here. I got a couple reports here as this is not a pro football thread. For now I'll keep it here as not all pro football readers go to the sports forum (and we obviously don't have a high school football subforum) but after comments slow down I'll probably move it. In nearly all cases high school football teams belong in the state forums but for now this thread will stay here.

It's OK with me if you move it. I am most interested in getting responses. If I can get more responses by moving it to another forum, go for it. This particular play happened at our local high school and it is a big deal around here and I'd like to get some unbiased, non local opinions.

I just want to hear from people who have experience maybe coaching or just from people who are familiar with football strategy, HS, Col, or Pro. To me, it didn't make tactical sense to put a hit on a kicker. It seems like a waste of a blocker to try to block a player who is unlikely to make a tackle.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:13 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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3) the kicker was talking trash the whole game, or 4) the white team's getting blown out.
I've never seen it done so early in the play (the kicker got right back up) so if it was a tactic, it was a ****-poor one.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Kind of a pointless block really. He could've gotten up quickly and gotten back into the play. I'd rather have that guy just head downfield and turn around to setup the wall.

it's not like you're getting a big hit on the QB or receiver, to where it'll make them "think about it" next time they're out there.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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3) the kicker was talking trash the whole game, or 4) the white team's getting blown out.
I've never seen it done so early in the play (the kicker got right back up) so if it was a tactic, it was a ****-poor one.

Number 3 is a possibility I suppose as long as it doesn't interfere with the outcome which it probably would unless you're winning or losing by 40 points with a minute left.

Otherwise, I agree, I don't see the tactical use of that play.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Kind of a pointless block really. He could've gotten up quickly and gotten back into the play. I'd rather have that guy just head downfield and turn around to setup the wall.

it's not like you're getting a big hit on the QB or receiver, to where it'll make them "think about it" next time they're out there.

Yes, I agree.

So far, I haven't read any strategic reason to do something like that. It just seems like a cheap but legal shot which doesn't have any practical use.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:44 AM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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In high school, our kicker was also our quarterback and our most outstanding defensive back.

I attended a small high school.


Our coaches preached about keeping your head up.

Fair game.
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