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Old 11-23-2012, 05:35 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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In the legal world intent to do something naughty is all that counts. Dunno how it woks in football, but in the law if you intend to commit a felony, any other felony that springs from that will be deemed an intentional felony.

You may not intentionally have intended to kill someone during a robbery, but you sure intended to rob the place, so the intent requirement for intentional murder is transferred from the Robbery to cover the murder.


I would apply the same reasoning here. Doesn't matter where Suh intended to land the kick. It was foreseeable that his foot might end up in Schaubs nads so it doesn't matter if he was aiming for the shins.
Since you are quoting law... The intent also has to be proven without a reasonable doubt.

good luck with that in this situation.

 
Old 11-23-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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It makes me mad that the Media(ESPN) is going out of their way to get him suspended

Just let it go, the play was so minor
Uh, unless you're Schaub.
 
Old 11-23-2012, 06:23 PM
 
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In the legal world intent to do something naughty is all that counts. Dunno how it woks in football, but in the law if you intend to commit a felony, any other felony that springs from that will be deemed an intentional felony.

You may not intentionally have intended to kill someone during a robbery, but you sure intended to rob the place, so the intent requirement for intentional murder is transferred from the Robbery to cover the murder.


I would apply the same reasoning here. Doesn't matter where Suh intended to land the kick. It was foreseeable that his foot might end up in Schaubs nads so it doesn't matter if he was aiming for the shins.

Leg whip's illegal no matter where it lands.
 
Old 11-23-2012, 06:23 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Uh, unless you're Schaub.

My point is Schaub is not worrying about it so why can't ESPN just let it go? It's almost as if they want him to be suspended
 
Old 11-23-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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My point is Schaub is not worrying about it so why can't ESPN just let it go? It's almost as if they want him to be suspended
So does it have to matter to the victim? Yeah, he kicked him in the nuts, big deal!
 
Old 11-23-2012, 07:00 PM
FBJ
 
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So does it have to matter to the victim? Yeah, he kicked him in the nuts, big deal!

It was nothing but life on the football field. That sort of thing happens all the time
 
Old 11-23-2012, 07:13 PM
 
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Yes, as someone posted, not minor to QB, who received the oh-so-obvious kick!

Look at this from the point of sports integrity....of playing the game in fairness, or as someone said, as in a "brotherhood"...

Then you can see where Suh is SORELY lacking these qualities-quite unprofessional.





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Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy View Post
It makes me mad that the Media(ESPN) is going out of their way to get him suspended

Just let it go, the play was so minor
 
Old 11-23-2012, 07:17 PM
 
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The guy is a total D-bag.

I like the Lions as a team but I hate Suh's fat ass.
 
Old 11-23-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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Since you are quoting law... The intent also has to be proven without a reasonable doubt.

good luck with that in this situation.
no it does not. proof goes to the crime, not intent. Intent is suggested based on observations.

No court asks you to prove intent. that's just silly. All they need to do is get a panel to review the video and vote on whether or not the kick LOOKED intentional. If they find that it looks intentional, then his intent to kick is just as good as intending to kick in the nads.

The Intent transfers.

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Leg whip's illegal no matter where it lands.
exactly!!!! all you need is the intentional transgression. Not intending it to land in the groin is irrelevant.
 
Old 11-23-2012, 09:56 PM
 
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It was nothing but life on the football field. That sort of thing happens all the time

Really? Show me a clip of one.
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