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Old 12-29-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Howard County, MD
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I'm 100% anti-expansion in the NFL, but if a current team with a bad fan base were to become nomads, these would be my top picks:

1. Los Angeles

Obviously already in the works.

2. Toronto

Fourth largest metro in North America, and as much as the CFL might not like it, A| The seasons are on different schedules so fans could conceivably follow both, B| Canadian and American football are technically different sports, C| Too bad.

3. Las Vegas

Biggest metro area that isn't in stepping on any major college team's turf. But I don't know if those Vegas types could mesh so well with the NFL owners and Commissioner. On the one side, you've got a bunch of sleazy con men who do all they can to separate hard working people from their money- and on the other side, you've got a bunch of casino owners
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Freakville
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That's NOT a ringing endorsement. They have about the worst attendance in the NFL. A lot of people wouldn't be surprised if the Jaguars didn't move to L.A.
2012 NFL Football Attendance - National Football League - ESPN

You sure about that?
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Freakville
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Seems you left out California
California with a population of 37,691,912 has 3 teams.

Given that we'd have to combine NY and FL to have the population of California, and those two states have 6 teams, it implies that CALI should have 6 teams.

At a minimum, there should be a team in the Los Angeles area, perhaps moving Tampa or Jacksonville is in order.
Why?
LA has already not supported multiple teams.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:57 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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I'm 100% anti-expansion in the NFL, but if a current team with a bad fan base were to become nomads, these would be my top picks:

1. Los Angeles

Obviously already in the works.

2. Toronto

Fourth largest metro in North America, and as much as the CFL might not like it, A| The seasons are on different schedules so fans could conceivably follow both, B| Canadian and American football are technically different sports, C| Too bad.

3. Las Vegas

Biggest metro area that isn't in stepping on any major college team's turf. But I don't know if those Vegas types could mesh so well with the NFL owners and Commissioner. On the one side, you've got a bunch of sleazy con men who do all they can to separate hard working people from their money- and on the other side, you've got a bunch of casino owners
You can forget about Vegas...
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:53 AM
 
Location: not Chicagoland
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I think that you should also look at capacity percentage.

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You can forget about Vegas...
Las Vegas shouldn't have any pro teams.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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Do you think Texas would do well with another team? I ask this because I notice that Texas with a population of 26,059,203 has 2 NFL teams. And even if it got another one, where would it go? Would it be healthy for the other two teams or would all three falter a bit? Here is how it compares to other states:

New York with a population of 19,570,261 has 3 teams.
Florida with a population of 19,317,568 has 3 teams.
Pennsylvania with a population of 12,763,536 has 2 teams.
Ohio with a population of 11,544,225 has 2 teams.
Missouri with a population 6,021,988 has 2 teams.
I would support it if they wanted to move a team like Jacksonville to Texas. Texas is such a great football state, so many of the great players were born and bred there. If anyone deserves 3 teams Texas does.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Freakville
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I think that you should also look at capacity percentage.

Las Vegas shouldn't have any pro teams.

I did
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Freakville
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I think that you should also look at capacity percentage.



Las Vegas shouldn't have any pro teams.
Listing of teams with a lower average attendance and a lower average % of capacity than Jacksonville at home games (home games are all that matter):
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Arizona
Minnesota
Miami
San Diego
St. Louis
Tampa Bay
Oakland

Let's not let facts get in the way.

Last edited by Flem125; 12-30-2012 at 12:21 PM.. Reason: Missed a few words for clarity
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Howard County, MD
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But did you also factor in that the Jags put a tarp over the upper part of the stadium to artificially lower the capacity?
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Abilene, Texas
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I would support it if they wanted to move a team like Jacksonville to Texas. Texas is such a great football state, so many of the great players were born and bred there. If anyone deserves 3 teams Texas does.
I agree, and San Antonio is a great place for a pro sports team. The San Antonio metro area has approximately 2 million people and growing and could easily support a pro football franchise. I lived in San Antonio one time and my dad has lived there for over 20 years and I can tell you that the locals are sports fanatics! The local support for the Spurs is incredible. I went to a couple of minor league hockey games in San Antonio back in the 90's a few times and that fairly large coliseum they played in was packed each time. Some people say there's too many Dallas Cowboys fans in San Antonio but I don't buy it. If they ever put an NFL team in San Antonio the locals will show up for the games.
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