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Old 01-03-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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Thoughts on Shurmur and Heckert being fired in Cleveland. I have been hard on Shurmur, and I truly think that he was in over his head. However; given the young core on the Browns, and the fact that Shurmur is young himself, I would have been inclined to give him one more year. I mean, he had his back up against the wall from the get go. His first year he went through a shortened training camp due to the lock out, and then this year has a bunch of rookies starting (and in fact contributing). I wasn't a fan of them firing Heckert, as he did make some very nice picks, and I believed laid the foundation. What screwed him was the drafting of Weeden. If you are drafting a 28 year old rookie QB, it had better be a slam dunk. And as I said in the Cleveland Browns thread on here, given the performance of the other rookie QBs drafted this year in comparison, Weeden was NOT a slam dunk. That pick I believe is why he was shown the door by the new ownership group.

In San Diego, I have to wonder what took them so long to fire Norv Turner? I mean, they fire Schottenheimer after he posts a 14-2 regular season record?

A bit shocked about the Bears firing Lovie Smith. 10-6 IMO is not a record that is a terminable offense.

Crennel in KC.... Who didn't see that one coming?

Reid in Philly... Be careful what you wish for Eagles fans. With the exception of the past couple years he had you guys consistently in the thick of it.
After awhile, I think the GM A.J. Smith was just being stubborn. It was a big deal when he let Schottenheimer go, and he put Turner in place. I think he knew that if Turner failed (especially earlier in his tenure), he would be forced to admit that he made a mistake firing Schottenheimer. And Smith has proven since that he really isnt that great himself...

If one idiot had remembered to fall to the ground and down the ball after a Brady interception, who knews if Marty would have been fired?
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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I remember when Crennel was wanted by so many teams when after the Pats won their 3rd SB. Not sure why so many owners feel that assistant coaches on a winning team is going to turn their team around.
Same as Charlie Weiss, and look at all the Andy Reid spin offs, like Shurmur, Rivera, and Childress. I guess the hope is that the asst coaches picked stuff up from the head coach.

QBs make coaches or break coaches. Belichick wasn't a genius until Brady, Bruce Arians, who really has heard of him until Andrew Luck, Shannahan looked terrible in DC RG3 saved his job.
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:22 PM
 
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Reid to Arizona is all over. That's not the issue. I'm just poking fun at a ridiculous statement made on whatever newscast you watched.
Darn! I was wishing that they took Haley from us
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:44 PM
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Same as Charlie Weiss, and look at all the Andy Reid spin offs, like Shurmur, Rivera, and Childress. I guess the hope is that the asst coaches picked stuff up from the head coach.

QBs make coaches or break coaches. Belichick wasn't a genius until Brady, Bruce Arians, who really has heard of him until Andrew Luck, Shannahan looked terrible in DC RG3 saved his job.

Poor Brad Childress didn't even work out on the NFL Network after being fired by Minnesota.
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Same as Charlie Weiss, and look at all the Andy Reid spin offs, like Shurmur, Rivera, and Childress. I guess the hope is that the asst coaches picked stuff up from the head coach.

QBs make coaches or break coaches. Belichick wasn't a genius until Brady, Bruce Arians, who really has heard of him until Andrew Luck, Shannahan looked terrible in DC RG3 saved his job.
I never wanted Childress in Minnesota. Why would anyone hire an Andy Reid OC? It's quite well known that Reid called his own plays so his OC is just window dressing.
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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Poor Brad Childress didn't even work out on the NFL Network after being fired by Minnesota.
He's not exactly a charismatic individual.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:26 PM
 
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Yeah, Childress made so many bad decisions in Minnesota, it does make you wonder why any coordinators would get a head coaching job...
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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He's not exactly a charismatic individual.
Just hearing him talk and seeing him in interviews is like watching paint dry, he is one blah guy. Talking seems painful for him.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:28 AM
 
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Just hearing him talk and seeing him in interviews is like watching paint dry, he is one blah guy. Talking seems painful for him.
He learned from the master.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:40 AM
 
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Pioli is out at the Chiefs GM. Seems odd to me it took them this long to figure that out.
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