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View Poll Results: Who do you think will win?
Seattle Seahawks! 36 39.13%
Denver Broncos! 56 60.87%
Voters: 92. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-20-2014, 07:24 PM
 
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so anybody making the case for the Seahawks is because they hate the Broncos?


I just think their record and stats are over-blown because they play in a weak ass division and the AFC are allergic in playing defense especially in the secondary.
NFC beat the AFC this year 34-30.

NFC West went 13-3 vs. the AFC
AFC West went 11-5 vs. the NFC

I'm not seeing your case for "weak ass division".

Maybe not as strong as the NFC west, I would agree with that.

However, Denver has been dominant in the playoffs while Seattle wasn't.

As for points scored, lets assume you are right and the AFC is of weaker defensive ability. Denver still outscored any other AFC team by a wide wide margin.

On top of that the AFC didn't do that bad against the NFC this season so I find that position to be overstated as well.

NFL Non-conference records: NFC finishes slightly ahead of AFC, but are they better? - Field Gulls

Just seems like you are trying to claim Seattle is the vastly superior team and should have it in the bag. All I can say is that with a sure thing like that you should be borrowing all the money you can to get a bet in on this game.

 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:33 PM
 
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NFC beat the AFC this year 34-30.

NFC West went 13-3 vs. the AFC
AFC West went 11-5 vs. the NFC

I'm not seeing your case for "weak ass division".

Maybe not as strong as the NFC west, I would agree with that.

However, Denver has been dominant in the playoffs while Seattle wasn't.



weak ass DEFENSE DIVISION:

Oakland: ranked 22nd defense 28th pass ranked defense
Chiefs:Ranked 24th 25th pass ranked defense
Chargers: ranked 23rd 29th pass ranked defense


nobody plays defense in that division?


You wrote that the Broncos have been dominant in the playoffs and Seattle hasn't......apples and oranges.

Broncos played against a depleted Chargers and Pats defense with one of the worst secondary defense in the NFL, that's not an opinion but a fact.

Seattle had to play the Saints and 49ers defenses.....even you have to admit that is night and day from the Chargers and Pats defenses.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:35 PM
 
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be honest: you think the Broncos would be dominant against the Saints and 49ers???

I see a shootout with Brees and a close game.....and I dont see the Broncos being dominant at all against the 49ers, I see Manning struggling.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:36 PM
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Location: Fredericksburg/Virginia Beach, VA
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Just seems like you are trying to claim Seattle is the vastly superior team and should have it in the bag...
Not only that, but considering the Seahawks strength is their defense one would hope they would be significantly better than the Broncos, whose weakness is supposed to be their defense. But look at a few key stats side by side over the last four games:

Passing: 192.3 vs 198.8
Rushing: 105.3 vs 70
3rd down %: 25.9 vs 39.6
PPG: 14.5 vs 15

I've posted this a couple times now. The Seahawks are on the left, the Broncos are on the right. The Seahawks numbers include a game against Drew Brees, the Broncos include games against Phil Rivers and Tom Brady.

Weighting the more recent games is a much more relevant predictor of performance than a complete season's worth. Teams evolve over the course of a season. Teams get hot and find a groove at the right moment. Teams fall apart. It's a long season.

The take away is this: If the Broncos defense can get one more game like their last four, the Seahawks are in trouble. The Seahawks defense, while good, has not been significantly better than the Broncos in recent games.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Not only that, but considering the Seahawks strength is their defense one would hope they would be significantly better than the Broncos, whose weakness is supposed to be their defense. But look at a few key stats side by side over the last four games:

Passing: 192.3 vs 198.8
Rushing: 105.3 vs 70
3rd down %: 25.9 vs 39.6
PPG: 14.5 vs 15

I've posted this a couple times now. The Seahawks are on the left, the Broncos are on the right. The Seahawks numbers include a game against Drew Brees, the Broncos include games against Phil Rivers and Tom Brady.

Weighting the more recent games is a much more relevant predictor of performance than a complete season's worth. Teams evolve over the course of a season. Teams get hot and find a groove at the right moment. Teams fall apart. It's a long season.

The take away is this: If the Broncos defense can get one more game like their last four, the Seahawks are in trouble. The Seahawks defense, while good, has not been significantly better than the Broncos in recent games.
Noooo.....

But we will see at the game. Buffalo wing?
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:46 PM
 
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if the Seahawks play DEFENSE like they have all year, Broncos are in trouble.


Im not sold on the Broncos secondary and Percy Harvin will play in the S.B.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:47 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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The locals do not hate him. You need to get over it. And yes, the offense could do better.....however, it's kind of ironic that you still use that as an argument..... They are going to the Superbowl you know.

For my entire family from Seattle who has been waiting for a team like this sense the 70's.
Go Hawks!
Actually yes they do. Everyone at work was like "now if only they'd keep him away from a mic."
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:52 PM
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Location: Fredericksburg/Virginia Beach, VA
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Noooo.....

But we will see at the game. Buffalo wing?
Buffalo wing? No friend of mine is eating buffalo wings during the Super Bowl! Bar-B-Q ribs and stuffed jalapenos for you!
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:55 PM
 
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Actually yes they do. Everyone at work was like "now if only they'd keep him away from a mic."
I want NFL films to mic him up for the game.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Buffalo wing? No friend of mine is eating buffalo wings during the Super Bowl! Bar-B-Q ribs and stuffed jalapenos for you!
Yes

ribs
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