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Old 02-12-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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The chiefs defense faded a bit towards the end of the year .... they did a good job at generating TOs .... starting in week 9 they gave up 470 yards to the Bills, 427 to Denver, 491 to SD, 535 to Denver, 257 to Washington, 461 to Oakland, 367 to Indy, 405 to SD and then 536 to Indy in the playoffs

They ended up finishing 24th in yards allowed (18th in yards per drive) and 5th in points

They did a really good job at forcing TOs and getting sacks and they also played a really light schedule

I would say they started their season as an above average defense, but didn't have the depth to sustain it and finished the year at an average level
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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So if a team has better players and better coaches they'll get better results

That probably happens in better organization from the top down as well

Seattle did all those things well - better than their peers, which is why they fielded the top defense in the league and one that no other team in the league is more physical than - some teams are better suited than others to deal with this

Back when Mike Holmgren was coach a lot of his offense relied on timing, middle routes, etc .... when they played a physical defense that would disrupt the timing the offense struggled ..... however, most of the time other teams in the league just didn't have the right cards to bring to the table to execute that against them
I don't agree with this. The better players will NOT assure victory. The Portland Trailblazers didn't have the better players when they won the NBA finals. They had a better game scheme and more motivated players. You can stack up talent to the skies, but if they don't exploit their talents on the field due to lack of motivation, lack of proper use of those talents, proper practice regimen, they can lose with a great deal of probability. The only thing that star quality does insure is high hopes in the fan base. That may make money, but it also sets up some franchises for embarrassments.
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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No where did I say talent alone wins you anything

Again - really unclear exactly what point you are trying to make or what your posting about
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Old 02-12-2014, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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So if a team has better players and better coaches they'll get better results

That probably happens in better organization from the top down as well
That's the way I interpreted this comment.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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The chiefs defense faded a bit towards the end of the year .... they did a good job at generating TOs .... starting in week 9 they gave up 470 yards to the Bills, 427 to Denver, 491 to SD, 535 to Denver, 257 to Washington, 461 to Oakland, 367 to Indy, 405 to SD and then 536 to Indy in the playoffs

They ended up finishing 24th in yards allowed (18th in yards per drive) and 5th in points

They did a really good job at forcing TOs and getting sacks and they also played a really light schedule

I would say they started their season as an above average defense, but didn't have the depth to sustain it and finished the year at an average level
The Chiefs' defense was a mirage that got the perfect storm of facing weak offenses (many with backup quarterbacks) and a DC that hadn't been in that position in 4 years. They relied heavily on blitzes early on and once opposing coaches had enough film, the scheme advantages went away and offenses were able to exploit them repeatedly.

Unlike offense, defense in the NFL is all about the players after about week 8. By that time the scheme advantages are over.
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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The Chiefs' defense was a mirage that got the perfect storm of facing weak offenses (many with backup quarterbacks) and a DC that hadn't been in that position in 4 years. They relied heavily on blitzes early on and once opposing coaches had enough film, the scheme advantages went away and offenses were able to exploit them repeatedly.

Unlike offense, defense in the NFL is all about the players after about week 8. By that time the scheme advantages are over.
Stay within reach and have everybody well in December. That's probably what every coach hopes.
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: brooklyn, new york, USA
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here are my thousand words

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Old 04-24-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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The 2013 Seattle Seahawks had arguably the greatest defense in NFL history. They were just too much for Peyton and company.

Denver's defense was on the field forever, and finally began to ware down in the second half, making it easy for Wilson to get going.

Denver picked the worst game possible to have an "off" day. The offense just wasn't clicking, and the pass rush was all over Peyton.
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Old 08-09-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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The reason why Denver lost is because Peyton Manning got sacked too many times, and the Seahawks capitalized on that.
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Old 08-10-2014, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Candy Kingdom
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The reason why Denver lost is because Peyton Manning got sacked too many times, and the Seahawks capitalized on that.
Yeah. It'll be interesting to see if Peyton Manning retires soon. Isn't he in his late 30s?
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