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View Poll Results: Who is the Worst GM in the NFL?
Matt Millen 5 41.67%
Jerry Jones 5 41.67%
Vinny Ceratto 1 8.33%
Browns GMs 2 16.67%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-26-2014, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Finks left 3 years before the Vikings 4th Super Bowl appearance, tho I can't say I'm surprised you didn't know that.
My memory is bad, really bad.

but the Vikings last Super Bowl (4th) was in 1976. That culminated 3 Super Bowl Appearances in 4 seasons. So if Finks left 3 years before their final appearance, then he was only apart of 2 of the Vikings Super Bowl teams?

But of course, the 2 Vikings Super Bowl appearances after Finks were still a product of his GMing.

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Old 02-26-2014, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Finks left 3 years before the Vikings 4th Super Bowl appearance, tho I can't say I'm surprised you didn't know that.
Nothing you say surprises me. Finks was 1964-73. During his tenure, Vikings played in two Super Bowls. And he built the franchise culture. The Purple People Eaters were a Finks creation. He hired Bud Grant when Norm Van Brocklin. Took me less than two minutes to find this. Why did you then claim otherwise?
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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My memory is bad, really bad.

but the Vikings last Super Bowl (4th) was in 1976. That culminated 3 Super Bowl Appearances in 4 seasons. So if Finks left 3 years before their final appearance, then he was only apart of 2 of the Vikings Super Bowl teams?
Vikings Super Bowls
1970 (1969 Season)
1974
1975
1977

Finks left in May of '74 so technically he was not part of that 3rd season but I gave him the benefit of the doubt for putting together that roster. About half the team was turned over by the time they played the Raiders in 1977.
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Nothing you say surprises me. Finks was 1964-73. During his tenure, Vikings played in two Super Bowls. And he built the franchise culture. The Purple People Eaters were a Finks creation. He hired Bud Grant when Norm Van Brocklin. Took me less than two minutes to find this. Why did you then claim otherwise?
Minnesota Vikings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
To attribute the Vikings Purple People Eater "culture" to Jim Finks and not Bud Grant demonstrates how little you know about football in general and the Vikings in particular.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Any GM that was part of the Cleveland Browns from their return in 1999, until now. I am willing to give Ray Farmer the new GM a pass, as it is his first time since the Browns parted ways with Joe Banner, and that idiot Mike Lombardi!
Phil Savage was also a GM of the Browns and he was terrible and I'm sure he is an idiot just as much as Michael Lombardi is.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:56 PM
 
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Matt Millen
Jerry Jones
Mike Brown
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Old 03-06-2014, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Past: midwest, east coast
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Nobody, and I mean nobody, has ever been worse than Matt Millen.
Couple him with a toxic organization led by William Clay Ford, owner of the Lions for 50 years who is so incompetent he was even kicked out of his family's auto company, and there was a recipe for disaster.

The Fords simply cannot run a professional football team. To this day Lions fans are miserable. The last time they won a Playoff game I was in my mother's womb. That was the only Playoff game they've won since 1964.
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Old 03-07-2014, 08:41 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Phil Savage was also a GM of the Browns and he was terrible and I'm sure he is an idiot just as much as Michael Lombardi is.

Lombardi is worse.
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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List of Dallas Cowboys seasons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My calculations say that from 1989-2013, the Cowboys are .536. Not sure where that puts them. But in the long term, in Jones' ownership, they are pretty middle-of-the-pack. Last 4 years, 8-8 every year. The last four years are TYPICAL Cowboys finishes in Jerry Jones' years. Their best years were when Troy Aikman was there. When he quit, the team has been anything but America's team.

Again I'm a Redskins fan so the JJ bashing is OK with me. But you continue to make an argument that makes zero sense.

We are discussing the WORST GMs and you keep arguing that a guy with a .500 record, 3 playoff appearances and a playoff win is no worse than a guy who was 31-97 and never came close to the playoffs That is just wrong no matter how you cherry pick the numbers. "Middle of the pack" is not the worst. It's just that simple.
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones are owners. But the people who work for them might be among the worst.
Jones is much more than an owner. He is also the GM for Dallas. Don't really like him. And Phil Savage is an idiot! LOL!
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