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Old 06-08-2014, 07:01 PM
 
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PM is one of those very talented players who seems to make crucial mistakes at the worst times. In playoff games he's just made so many bad decisions... He's certainly one of the most talented QB ever (apart from having no scrambling ability), but he's played consistently when it counts most.

Think of it this way: Manning is almost certainly more talented than Brady, but who would you rather have in a crucial game? While Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl recently (not entirely his fault), he's certainly been better in the playoffs than Manning.

Some players do really well in the regular season, but for whatever reason not in the playoffs, while others are mediocre in the regular season, but exceptional in the playoffs; Manning is definitely the former.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:26 PM
 
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Dave,

I could be wrong !
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:24 PM
 
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Mark Sanchez is garbage in the regular season and sensational in the playoffs.
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Old 06-09-2014, 04:36 AM
 
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Mark Sanchez is garbage in the regular season and sensational in the playoffs.
Nice fishing attempt but I won't take the bait.
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Old 06-09-2014, 04:38 AM
 
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Dave,

I could be wrong !

You are the rare message board poster who can admit when he may be wrong. Most don't, and I include myself in that category.

I tip my hat to you.
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Old 06-09-2014, 05:46 AM
 
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Dave,

What's even rarer is for someone who proves their point as you did with out lobbing any insults after the fact.

So, I tip my hat to you!



Marty
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Old 06-09-2014, 06:08 AM
 
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Dave,

What's even rarer is for someone who proves their point as you did with out lobbing any insults after the fact.

So, I tip my hat to you!



Marty
It's early. There's still time for me to be as big of a dick as the owner of California Chrome.
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Old 06-09-2014, 06:34 AM
 
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Part of Peyton's legacy (as it currently stands) will always (& unfortunately) be his inability to close out championships the way Montana, Bradshaw, & Brady have/did.. The reason I believe this is, even tho the early-90s Bills completely dominated their conference (which is an awesome feat), fans always remember their inability to close the deal (same theory applies to Tarkenton's '70s Vikings).
But Manning still has some time, & his regular season accomplishments, combined with his recognized, singular cerebral skills is still a damn good reputation, no ?
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Old 06-09-2014, 06:52 AM
 
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Part of Peyton's legacy (as it currently stands) will always (& unfortunately) be his inability to close out championships the way Montana, Bradshaw, & Brady have/did.. The reason I believe this is, even tho the early-90s Bills completely dominated their conference (which is an awesome feat), fans always remember their inability to close the deal (same theory applies to Tarkenton's '70s Vikings).
But Manning still has some time, & his regular season accomplishments, combined with his recognized, singular cerebral skills is still a damn good reputation, no ?
Exactly and it's why Derek Jeter and A-Rod are remembered the way they are, and I"m not talking about PEDs. A-Rod's regular season numbers blow away Jeter's but it's what you did when it matters that counts the most.

That's why I put Joe Montana at the top and it's not even close. We've seen Peyton struggle, we've seen Brady, Favre, Elway etc have bad big games. I don't recall Joe Montana playing poorly very often in big games. I'm sure it happened but it was rare.
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Old 06-09-2014, 07:56 AM
 
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Exactly and it's why Derek Jeter and A-Rod are remembered the way they are, and I"m not talking about PEDs. A-Rod's regular season numbers blow away Jeter's but it's what you did when it matters that counts the most.

That's why I put Joe Montana at the top and it's not even close. We've seen Peyton struggle, we've seen Brady, Favre, Elway etc have bad big games. I don't recall Joe Montana playing poorly very often in big games. I'm sure it happened but it was rare.
Dave, were do you put Bradshaw? #2 ?

As far as bad postseason games, Montana had a few.. none in the SB though..

It's ironic that the biggest Playoff moment (The Catch) for Montana came in a game in which he did not play particularly well. He threw 3 picks vs the Cowboys in that game.

I can't pick an ATB QB or GOAT. I have a top 5 which Montana is in, but its simply too hard to say this guy was better than this guy within that list. I have a hard time saying Montana is better than Peyton simply because Montana was 4-0 in SBs while Peyton is 1-2. If I used that formula, then I would have to say that Bradshaw was better than Peyton and I watched Bradshaw play and my eyeballs tell me that he simply was not better than Peyton Manning..
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